getting warmer? Global Warming leads to extinction?

welsh

Junkmaster
Is this bullshit?

January 8, 2004
Scientists Predict Widespread Extinction by Global Warming
By JAMES GORMAN

n international group of 19 scientists, analyzing research around the globe, has concluded that a warming climate will rival habitat destruction in prompting widespread extinctions in this century.

By 2050, the scientists say, if current warming trends continue, 15 to 37 percent of the 1,103 species they studied will be doomed.

They did not extend their prediction to all species worldwide, but they said that the sample was large enough to show that climate change could be disastrous. In addition to current efforts to create parks and reserves, they added, efforts to decrease global warming will be necessary to reduce rates of extinction.

The analysis is built on layers of computer models of climate change and other models of the ways species become extinct, each having varying degrees of uncertainty. Consequently, the authors say, the numbers cannot be taken as precise. They are described in the paper as a "first pass" at quantifying the extinction threat posed by a global warming trend.

"There's a huge amount of uncertainty," said the primary author of the paper, Dr. Chris D. Thomas, a professor of conservation biology at the University of Leeds in England.

Dr. Daniel B. Botkin, professor emeritus at the University of California at Santa Barbara, an ecologist who has done extensive research on climate change, said the paper was "a valiant effort" to address the effect of warming trends on living things, an area of research he said had been slighted in favor of creating climate models. And he acknowledged that the authors themselves presented their numbers as a beginning and a spur to further research.

He said, however, that the analysis was based on "a lot of steady state assumptions that lead it to the most pessimistic forecast," including the notion that things will stay as they are in terms of the ways animals migrate and respond to temperature change.

Scientists have been predicting drastic extinctions for years, largely because humans are steadily taking land that other creatures live on and turning it to their own purposes.

By different estimates species are now becoming extinct at rates 100 to 1,000 times as great as would be expected without human interference or a catastrophic event.

The analysis, published Wednesday in the journal Nature, raises the status of global warming from that of contributor to habitat loss to full-fledged force for extinction.

Dr. Thomas said that despite the significant uncertainties, the researchers assessed the raw data on species numbers, current habitats and past extinctions from as many angles as possible. They included species in different terrestrial environments around the world — in Central America, South America, Australia and Africa.

They used predictions of increased temperature ranging from mild to extreme and applied three different methods for predicting extinction, all based on the relationship of species disappearance to loss of livable habitat. They also considered two different possibilities for gauging how well the different species would be able to disperse as temperatures at home became uncomfortable.

Although the results vary widely, Dr. Thomas said, even the most conservative estimates show that global warming, which he and most other scientists attribute to emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the burning of fossil fuels, presents a "very serious risk to huge numbers of species and at least ranks alongside habitat destruction" as a threat.

The paper does not predict that all the extinctions will occur by 2050, but that by that time these species will have reached the point of no return.
 
Well, I must say, I am starting to think that that is total bullshit. I mean, I live down in victoria, in Australia, one of the worst effected spots, apart from antartica, and it the middle of summer right now, and I have had the heater and a thick wool jumper on all week! Go figure.
 
Global warming my ass.

Today In Montréal

06H00 -21celcius
53% humidity
-30 windchill factor

10H00 -26 celcius
58% humidity
-35 windchill factor

18H00 -29 celcius
62% humidity
-39 windchill

Global warming... i'm all for it
 
Gruug, if its the middle of summer there, are you on summer break? I've always wanted to know that...

Mohrg :twisted:
 
I think summer break is another weird backward thing we americans have. Maybe I'm wrong. I just know it started here so kids could help on the farm during the harvesting season.


And for some reason it's seventy degrees farenheit in January in Arizona :? For some strange reason. It's not supposed to be this warm in the middle of winter.
 
It sure as hell isn't effecting Connecticut at all. Its like 10 degrees (farenheit) right now, and its supposed to be below zero for the rest of the weekend. Partying is gonna be killer this weekend.
And holy crap, Welsh. You really like posting gigantic articles. I've read more of those on this forum than I read anything in High School! i'm not trying to offend you or anything, its just, the amount of reading, wow.
 
I like reading PlayBoy...

In all honesty that all PlayBoy is is reading, they have the centerfold and then nothing but words. When I think of PB I think of nudity not a book.....

Mohrg :twisted:
 
I agree Morgh- last I saw Playboy it was mostly reading.

But that's why we have the internet.

Oh King, I do this regularly- don't mind it. I like to keep up with the news and share what is interesting. But I agree, the articles get long. I could cut and edit, though... but fuck it, I'm a lazy SOB. That said, I hope I am picking some of the better articles in the news- more analysis.

If you see something interesting please feel free to post.

Mohrg, doesn't playboy have a subscription deal if you order the mag?
 
One of my boys was telling me you could get a year subscription for dirt cheap, but I'm not exactly sure how much it was.

Mohrg :twisted:
 
And to answer your question, the school year ended late last month, so I am on new school year holiday, or you could say summer holiday. :lalala:
 
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Topic was global warming, not Playboy Magazine.

In my opinion, there is a slight global warming. However there has been some evidence that it actually is offsetting what would be a global cooling. I can't give a link because I heard it on Coast to Coast A.M. radio show, by a respected weather researcher.
 
How did we get onto Playboy anyways?

I skimmed over the entire thread, but I didn't see why we're talking about it.
 
I like reading PlayBoy...

In all honesty that all PlayBoy is is reading, they have the centerfold and then nothing but words. When I think of PB I think of nudity not a book.....

Mohrg

It was Mohrg.......again.
 
King Of Creation said:
It sure as hell isn't effecting Connecticut at all. Its like 10 degrees (farenheit) right now, and its supposed to be below zero for the rest of the weekend. Partying is gonna be killer this weekend.
And holy crap, Welsh. You really like posting gigantic articles. I've read more of those on this forum than I read anything in High School! i'm not trying to offend you or anything, its just, the amount of reading, wow.
Mohrg6sic6 said:
I like reading PlayBoy...

In all honesty that all PlayBoy is is reading, they have the centerfold and then nothing but words. When I think of PB I think of nudity not a book.....

Mohrg :twisted:



That was how, I just don't understand how people think sometimes.
 
I never edited! I put the quote first then put the It was morhg bit one line after! Don't tell me what I do, fool! :-p
 
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