Grandmother shoots a robber

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Jacksie Mae King told police that she woke up about 2 a.m. Tuesday to the sound of someone trying to get into her small house on Gaty Avenue.

King, 87, reached for the pistol that her daughter had given her two months earlier after a man broke into the house, beat King, stole some items and fled.

King could not use the telephone to call for help Tuesday morning. The intruder had ripped the telephone wires from a power box before removing security bars on a window to get into her enclosed porch. He then began removing a storm door to get to the front door of the house.

Police said King fired several shots through the door.

The man on the porch, Larry D. Tillman, 49, was hit in the right shoulder, the bullet traveling through a lung and lodging in his spine. Tillman, who lived about seven blocks away, died on the porch.

"She couldn't call for help and was afraid to go outside," said Illinois State Police Master Sgt. Jim Morrisey. "She didn't know she had hit him. She sat in a chair and kept an eye on the front door with pistol in hand."

For nearly four hours, Tillman lay dead on the front porch. About 6 a.m. King's daughter, Pamela Paulette-Clark, showed up to bring her mother breakfast and entered the house through a rear door. She saw the pistol.

"Her daughter came in and said, 'What's going on?'" Morrisey said.

King, who has lived in the Gaty Avenue house since she was a girl, is doing fine and staying with family, police said.

Robert Shay, St. Clair County chief deputy corner, said it appeared the fatal shot came from a .38-caliber Colt revolver. Morrisey said it had not yet been determined whether King had a permit to own the pistol. It will ultimately be up to the St. Clair County state's attorney's office on whether to bring charges against the woman for the fatal shooting, but Morrisey sees it as unlikely.

"To make it justified, you have to be in fear that somebody is entering your house against your will and you fear that it will result in bodily harm," Morrisey said. "In this case, I don't think there is a problem with that."

The incident Tuesday was similar to one at King's house in December. In both cases, the telephone power was cut and security bars were removed from the porch. But unlike Tuesday, a man made his way into the house in December and beat King badly and robbed her.

No charges were ever filed in the earlier case. Morrisey said evidence taken from the December home invasion would be compared to the break-in on Tuesday to see if Tillman was responsible for both crimes.

Tillman's criminal record is extensive and goes back to 1979. It includes at least two convictions for residential burglary and a robbery conviction.

extracted from : http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...96C7CA87F06142748625710F001F7068?OpenDocument
 
This is an interesting story...

But did you have a point with it? I mean, usually the poster tries to usher in a discussion or something. (Welsh being a good example of this.)

I think this is pretty open and shut.
 
A: Pro-gun (because she saved her life)

B: Anti-gun (because she acted irresponsibly)

C: Humour (because grandmothers shooting people are funny)

Take your pick.
 
I'm not a sheep-fucker. I fuck humans. I'm a human-fucker!

Ok, back on topic.

I do agree that this newsflash is quite useless, but it doesn point out one thing. They always say that the youth is corrupted and they are more or less all criminals.


Larry was 49 and the Grannie 87. Even the senior citizens are on rampage. Drive-by-shootings by wheelchairs...uuh.

, but seriously. Think about it. They have kids shoothing at school. Then you have your teenage punks which are a bitch in every nation. One step up the ladder you have the adult-idiots who are most likely the most dangerous ones. THEN...you have Ma and Pa.

I'm 100% that somewhere an infant is oiling his 12-gauge. This world truly is going to hell.
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A: Pro-gun (because she saved her life)

B: Anti-gun (because she acted irresponsibly)

C: Humour (because grandmothers shooting people are funny)

Take your pick.

I'll pick C... I don't think my granny would shoot anyone, but man it would be hilarious to see her try!
 
Lazarus Plus said:
(Welsh being a good example of this.)
Really? Wasn't welsh always a prime exponent of the "quote-and-run" approach to debate?

Once he gets going, he will comment on an issue, but it's often:

Full Page Newsbit
Minor comment/question.

*Open Floor*

Why is it that people are all for (somewhat) random shootings when the aggressors are elderly? What would you all have said if the shootee was the daughter and the 'phone lines were out because of a technica fault?
 
Big T said:
Why is it that people are all for (somewhat) random shootings when the aggressors are elderly? What would you all have said if the shootee was the daughter and the 'phone lines were out because of a technica fault?

Wait...the granny was the AGGRESSOR?! You might want to read the news bit again. :shock:

If the daughter was also ripping out the security bars to the front porch and then ripping off the storm door to tear her way inside, then I'd shoot her too.
 
Roshambo said:
Wait...the granny was the AGGRESSOR?! You might want to read the news bit again.
Aggressor in terms of the shooting, not the entire incident. Obviously this was not made sufficiently clear in my post.

If the daughter knew the house, it may be suitably easy for her to remove the storm doors and such without ripping them out.

Without knowing the setup of the house, or the construction of these defences it is difficult to comment accurately.
 
*knock knock knock*

"Mom? Are you home? Are you okay? I got no answer on your phone."

No, I don't quite see a reason for the daughter to rip out the security bars of a window, which security bars would have to be ripped out as they are usually welded or bolted in place, and a storm door is relatively nothing compared to that. However, a mistreated storm door tends to have a rather loud, unnerving sound, that is quite unmistakable as they are made of a light metal. Granny probably remembered the sound from the first time her home was broken into, and waited for the right time.

While it was a bit reckless given that she likely lived in urban settings, 2AM and the general layout of neighborhood structures (front doors usually point towards other front doors or garages, so there's a door and wall inbetween anyone sleeping in a bed, which tends to be in the rear of a house) would have greatly lessened the likelihood that she could have hurt someone else. Without seeing pictures, I can't say, but that seems likely.
 
Go granny.....one less predator the world has to live in fear of. Its really quite funny.....the robber prolly thought that he had an easy mark....damn i love firearms they are such a wonderful equalizer in such situations.
 
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