Graphic card, Low/Midclass - what to buy?

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its for my second computer at home, and that is primarily a fun/gaming rig. the machine is midclass stuff with dualcored 4k+ amd and 3 gb ram. right now it operates with an onboard graphic card, which is surprisingly good (lets me play stalker with ok-ish framerate), but i want to boost it up to pixel shader 3 or 4. no need for dx 10 effects. card will be pci-e slot.

so, i need your advice on the cheapest possible and still good graphics card in this department. i am very confused by contradicting tests and reviews. and i still cant figure out if radeon cards still have issues, like they used to have in olden times. damn that business is complicated.

thank you in advance, i am really confused here :crazy:
 
good timing, prices are dropping hard lately.

anyhow, send me a PM on friday evening or in the weekend to remind me to help you out here (if you can wait that "long"). but i dont have time right now to help you out.
 
The best you could get would be probably, radeon hd4850, but it will be difficult. 8800gt(s) will also do (best with non stock cooling, for example asus glaciator). Hope this helps :)
 
8800 series GEFORCE is a awesome graphic card capable of playing pretty much anything at awesome speed. Withing your price range by all means. Don't settle for any less or you will be wasting you money IMO.
 
I recently got an 8800 GT and it's worth the money. (I paid €110) I can even play Crysis on High Settings and 8xAA, woohoo! Make sure you get one with 512 MB RAM. I guess it's the best card you can get for about €100 at the moment.
 
yes, look very much like that. i was wondering which of the magical suffixes id have to choose (gs, gt, le, xyz, "of awexome graphic testosterone", etc), but gt seems to be the best. still dont know exactly why. :hide:
 
horst said:
yes, look very much like that. i was wondering which of the magical suffixes id have to choose (gs, gt, le, xyz, "of awexome graphic testosterone", etc), but gt seems to be the best. still dont know exactly why. :hide:

For the 8 series:


Ultra > GTX = GTS 512 > GT > GTS 320 = 640> GS
 
I connot agree, these are 2 different architectures:

Old (Ultra>GTX>gts640>gts320)

New (GTS512>gt512>gs384=gt256)

(it's all gf 8800)

At your price range best would be 8800 gt(s) 512, do not bither with the older ones. (older gtx is comparable if not worse than new 8800gt 512)

I coul also describe differences between them, but I think it's rather pointless
 
Xellos said:
I connot agree, these are 2 different architectures:

Old (Ultra>GTX>gts640>gts320)

New (GTS512>gt512>gs384=gt256)

(it's all gf 8800)

At your price range best would be 8800 gt(s) 512, do not bither with the older ones. (older gtx is comparable if not worse than new 8800gt 512)

I coul also describe differences between them, but I think it's rather pointless

He asked about the naming convention.

G80 and G92 are both 8 series, so separating them by architecture on a performance chart is unnecessary and confusing because you're implicating that the older cards are inferior... when in fact the Ultra/GTX kick the shit out of the g92 cards by a large margin when playing at high resolutions.

Heres my g92 gts. Even though I've pushed it to its limits, it'll still get crushed by the Ultra/GTX because of their superior amount of vram which makes all the difference in the world in huge resolutions .



@horst

If you don't plan on overclocking, buy this.

EVGA is the best vendor, stay away from the others. They're also the only one that offers the step-up program (Able to upgrade to another card in 90 days after purchase by simply paying the difference+shipping, and sending back your older one).
 
Don't want to argue. I just wanted to state , that your order of suffixes does not always translate performance.

And yes, g80 and g92 comepete differently in low and hich resolutions. My point was that under 1600x1200 there is no big difference in fps, but there is in cash.

Also g92 produces less heat.
 
thanks for all the input! that company looks nice, their base of operations in the middle of california, which is a hell of a distance to duesseldorf in germany. i prefer my hardware not being tossed around and literally raped by love-hungry seamen for 2 weeks!

otoh, you couldnt know i am german, and as a good german, you dont travel, except in tanks, so i am still in germany.

i was VERY confused by that evil plot (mixing random numbers and magic pre/suffixes) to leave me at the whim of a provision-oriented salesman in my local graphics-card-megastore. your postings cleared that up, a bit.

otoh, i wont play at higher than the usual 1280/1024 resolutions or even lower, because i plan to use a beamer on that machine. so it would be perfect to have a card that allows me good performance on human resolutions. y'know, this is not a hypothetic quantum/biomass cray computer of the future, from space :mrgreen:

thank you all,

horst
 
horst said:
thanks for all the input! that company looks nice, their base of operations in the middle of california, which is a hell of a distance to duesseldorf in germany. i prefer my hardware not being tossed around and literally raped by love-hungry seamen for 2 weeks!

otoh, you couldnt know i am german, and as a good german, you dont travel, except in tanks, so i am still in germany.

I'm pretty sure they've got a warehouse in Munich as well.
 
Since I'm an AMD guy I'll throw in the 3850 which I plan to get soon.
 
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