Inetligent?

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I was having a disscusion whit a friend the other day, and he said that a girl was innteligent becuase of extreamly god grades.
I deffending my bad grades said that inteligence does not need to be a good grades.
So today i talked whit a psykologist and he said that inteligence is what u can get out off a test.

Was wondering can inteligence be decided by a test or god grades at school.
 
>I was having a disscusion whit
>a friend the other day,
>and he said that a
>girl was innteligent becuase of
>extreamly god grades.
>I deffending my bad grades said
>that inteligence does not need
>to be a good grades.

I've found that a lot of girls do really well because they seem to have a much better work ethic. I know my sister will do her homework when she gets home to simply get it done and overwith, whereas I will put it off until 1 AM in the morning.

This is not to say that girls only do well because they work hard, but when you add the ability to set your priorities straight as well as have the mind to understand the material, you're going to produce good results.

Many people also play the teachers and know how to work just for the grade. Ever hear those people who ask, "is this going to be on the test?" Those people are trying to find the easiest path to get the grade.

Sadly, these "grade garnerers" do not take efforts to make the most of their learning rather than simply working for the grade.

The best teachers are the ones who emphasize learning rather than grading. Homework and tests should be used to help find out where the student is having problems, not the final indicator for the grade. There are also many professors and teachers that will give you good grade if you are actively interesting in the subject.

>So today i talked whit a
>psykologist and he said that
>inteligence is what u can
>get out off a test.

Psychology is a pseudo-science so I hold anything psychologists say with a grain of salt. More often than not they "discover" something that is totally obvious if you have some amount of common sense.

I do not believe tests are a definite indicator of intelligence. That is why I don't think IQ tests show anything. IQ tests are just trivia tests that don't show anything about you. That's also why colleges look at your grades as well as your test scores.

Some people take tests really badly. It certainly isn't intuitive and the questions target only a limited amount of the material learned. Tests can also be easily thwarted. For instance you should *always* guess on a multiple-choice test even if they subtract 1/4 point per wrong, you'd have to miss five out of five questions to lose anything. Some tests don't even penalize you. You can also almost always eliminate many choices just by looking. Also, most major tests has guide books to help you score better.

>Was wondering can inteligence be decided
>by a test or god
>grades at school.

Neither, or at least they don't show the full picture.

Intelligence is the ability to apply knowledge. Tests and grades are merely used to put a number to your ability to apply your knowledge to the test or subject you're studying. Though they are usually a good indicator, they don't always show the full picture, however most intelligent people can score well.

-Xotor-

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Very true.
In our class, for example, we have some people (girls, I might add) who usually get good grades but are total morons. What I mean is that it's impossible to have a sane discussion with them because they are so closed-minded and just won't accept any new ideas. Also, in subjects like English where we often discuss things in class they come up with the most idiotic comments but get credit for it from the teacher just for participating in the discussion.
Then, we have some very intelligent people who don't really care about school for some reason or other, and thus their grades suck.
 
as xotor said intelligence isnt what you know but what you do with what you know. therefore im not very intelligent because i know things that i dont apply to my life.
 
Damn the person who get the best grades in my class is nice to talk to.
I who is trying to convince the person that she is not innteligent.
Well not god to convince pepole when u do no know what u are talking about.

I think that some pepole are sosialy inteligent while som has a better understanding off math and science.
deppendes off what brain parts they use i supose.
 
answer : edumacation

No i'm kidding.
What's intelligence?

High scolarity?
I've seen some of my friend who are engineers bent-over looking under a SUV analysing the structure because they needed to know where they could put the jack to change a flat tire.

Making money?
A guy i know didn't even finish high school and he could (and does) show money management techniques to grad students in finance.

Able to do things?
I went to Colleg for seven years, i can,t fix my car i can't understand how it works. I know that i'm not dumb, my mechanic knows that he's not dumb, yet he does not get half of what i'm doing.
I can take apart a computer and rebuild it and reconfigure it, yet i don't know how to change the oil in my car.
My mechanic can take apart a transmition and rebuild it, yet he can't install a big software without help.

Good grades?
In my seventh years in college, my third year studying Physical Therapy close to the end of the semester, We were all in class the teacher was explaining a concept of the central nervous system (pretty deep stuff, i don't know how to translate it in english, besides it's not the point here). Then one of my fellow students ask "c'est quoi une synapse?" "what's a synapse?" shit this stuff is basic stuff, it's what we learned the first week of the first year of the major. That person had always crammed herself by studying the night before the exams and she had good grades 85-95% range, but she never learned anything. She could tell you excatly what the books said but she did not understand it.


I say intelligence is personnal. I pretty sure that there is one thing that you do well even better than anybody else (please don't mention masturbation or touching your nose with your thonge).
For you that thing might seems like childsplay but to others it is difficult. You probably comprehend everything that is to know about it and you can explain it to others, that's more intelligent than just remembering stuff.


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RE: answer : edumacation

i can do one better john, i can touch my nose with my dick when i masturbate :O <====8 and the craziness continues
 
You have my full support on what you just said, my colleague. I also have learned quite a cornucopia of knowledge (I said knowledge not wisdom, they are not the same thing) that has absolutely no relevance whatsoever in my life. I have learned to understand (more or less, I am no Einstein (though, I doubt he fully understood how magnificent his theory was)) relativity to a new point (man, it felt great when I looked at the full equations of relativity and I could relate them (sorry, pardon the pun) to what I had seen in books and I could solve a few problems and imagine the realistic equivalent of those results) even though I am not a researcher, neither a physicist, nor a quantum physics college professor.
Getting on the topic, my opinion is that intelligence is not something mesurable (if that is indeed the word). A high IQ doesn't mean that the person that has it, is indeed a mastermind. I believe there are MANY factors involved in that. To help you get the point, I refer you to the case of Marylin Vos Savant (if that is how her name is spelled), the person that has the highest IQ in the world. She is not a dark, super genius that lives in some mansion, trying to take over the world. She is just a normal woman that is a bit shy and introverted. I believe that there are several kinds of "intelligence". Sport legends like Pele or Cruiff, have an exceptional control of their bodies. They have what some neurologists call "Coordinative Intelligence", which means that they have good motor abilities and responses. Another kind of intelligence is the one that Ugly John hinted in his post. The girl in his class probably didn't have good logical reasoning abilities but she had an extremely good memory and she had a good ability to control it. Mnemonical Intelligence, call it some psychologists. To avoid making this post, kilometrical (I could continue showing you cases and cases to make my point), I will lastly mention that there are many kinds of inteligence and to steretype geniuses as "some weirdo that had good grades and was a wiz at math" is totally unfair. We could conclude that intelligence is to put your innate talents to improve your survivability. Education isn't always good for everybody, as the methods that are traditional do not always fit with some people (me, for example. I had horrid grades in highschool but every teacher I had said that I was intelligent (where I disagree with them) and that they understood that I had bad grades. According to a Logics professor, my apathy at studies could be explained as caused by my being uninterested in what most teachers explained because I probably was far ahead of what they were studying). Equalling grades to intelligence is stupid. They merely measure how much mastery do you have of some topic. As a final addendum (did I just make up that word?), I would like to propose this idea: intelligent people (I know I said there were different kinds of intelligence but I also have some aquaintances that I have yet to see what their talents are...) generally have less rewarding lives than those that are stupid. People Against Stupidity you say Xotor, but...at the expense of our happiness?
 
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