Interesting find? (warning nonsense may be present)

The whole thing seems kind of shoddy and I would like to point out that most eyewitnesses wouldn't know a missile from a flying toothbrush. Also, you have to remember that very, very soon after things started happening people kept muttering and screaming about what it might be. "Maybe it was a missile, or a bomb!" someone else "Yeah, yeah, that sounds right... Just like in a movie." As we all know, television and movies are key sources of knowledge. And anyway, no one expected then that someone would use a jetliner as a giant guided bomb so it was pretty much inconceivable to the layman.


I'll have to do some research later on some of the comments in that thing but not now, now, the tea calls... - Colt
 
i do believe it has been posted at least once before in the past month

(and yes the flash is utter bullocks for everyone equiped with a brain, look for this flash at some hoax buster websites)
 
My dad was in a hotel a mile from the pentagon when the plane hit. So excuse my attitude if I say that this conspiracy shit is the most recent iteration of stupid people's inherent inability to think for themselves.

He saw the event. He could smell the jet fuel. A plane hit the Pentagon, just like it hit the Towers. End of discussion.
 
Yup . . can´t deny the amaaazing qualities of Pentagon´s lawn :) No mark what so ever, with jet fuel burning all around . .

And just one small hole from an airplane like that? Yeah, I guess the wings just vaporated mysteriously before the impact :D yeaah . .

don´t get me started with the twin towers!


You yankees and most of the world got fooled big time - the evidence is all there and no one wants to see it.
 
How do you know your father is not in on the conspiracy Murdoch? Besides, could he tell the smell of jet fuel from the smell of another type of fuel?

I live in the area actually, there is no hotel a mile away where he could actually see the Pentagon.

Not that I believe that it was a conspiracy, but your statement really isn't "End of discussion."

To the topic at hand:

Bob, have you seen that other flash movie, Posting and you? One of the 'tips' is the use of the Search function, if you had looked, you would have found this thread on the same page of this forum.

Claw, be silent; you are hardly helping the intellectual properties of the boards with such comments.
 
I know many eye witnesses who were in or just outside the Pentagon at the time of the attack. None of them believe it was a missile or bomb that caused the damage. In fact, not one of them has ever talked to me of it being anything else probably because they SAW the jet, except for one who was taking a nap in his office on the opposite side, and therefore saw nothing. Most of them could easily be in on a conspiracy I suppose, but the information presented in the flash is just too weak to convince me one exists.
 
Johnny, I wonder why that URL you posted doesn´t touch the subjects of Penta´s undamaged lawn, security tapes that would show the 747, but for some reason have never been published, Etc Etc.

This is what I see: Most of conspiracy theorists do their homework, take every detail into account and seek the truth - on the other hand, there are those defend the public truth, the truth media spreads. And they fail miserably . . for most of the time, media simply states things - never cares to dig deeper. I dunno, you just check who owns the media, what´s good for them :) money. money. money.
 
I have seen security camera footage of the plane actually hitting the Pentagon. I do not recall on what news channel it was, but it was one of those timed cameras that takes a series of pictures rather then recording. It was shown just a few days after the 11th, although I do admit, I havn't seen it anywhere since.
 
That's true security cameras don't have a 1m-infinity focus and operate at 4-60fpm (frames per minute) depending on the manufacturer/settings. But it doesn't explain why there was only one movie released... there were 2 places where FBI was said to take the tapes and never give them back again...

And back to the Urban Legends Page:
1) Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?

Despite the appearances of exterior photographs, the Boeing 757-200 did not "only damage the outside of the Pentagon." It caused damage to all five rings (not just the outermost one) after penetrating a reinforced, 24-inch-thick outer wall. As 60 Minutes II reported in their "Miracle of the Pentagon" episode on 28 November 2001, the section of the Pentagon into which the hijacked airliner was flown had just been reinforced during a renovation project:

Yes.. It penetrated atleast 4 rings, the holes are around 2-4 meters in diameter which is wierd. Looks more like a sabot round (a large one). And I've seen what happens when an armoured bomber hits a duck at about 160mph (the wing was bumped about 0,5m in) Now try to imagine an unarmoured civilian plane hitting a reinforced wall and penetrating it and causing damage like that, I can't.
 
Makdaam, honestly, how much do you know about the damage an airplane creates when it impacts a wall at high speed?

Please don't say something like "common sense" either. Common sense told people for thousands of years that heavy objects fall faster than light objects, because it 'makes sense.'
 
Smaug One said:
Come on! FBI confiscated the videos! Why would you want to do that unless you have something to hide?

And we know this, how? From some internet site? If that's the case, cause everything on the internet is true. :roll:
 
Smaug One said:
Come on! FBI confiscated the videos! Why would you want to do that unless you have something to hide?
It's called gathering evidence. If your skidmarked underwear was possibly useful in an investigation, they would take it, and you'd never see it again.

:roll: There doesn't always have to be a conspiracy. Lay off the X-Files re-runs 'k.
 
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