Is it possible to compete in music?

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Myrrdin

Still Mildly Glowing
So... The preliminaries for the Eurovision Song Contest has yet again started in Sweden (and many other European countries I presume.) All the tabloid-like evening newspapers and the entertainment media go on about "Dis bieng de best yer evaaahh!!!". This Saturday an artist whom I particulary dislike, an idiotic euro-disco slut guy who can only sing (if it's possible to call it that) in one single note, made it to the Swedish finals.

Anyway, over here this is the traditional time to ask the question: "Is it possible to compete in music?" So that's what I'm asking you guys. Discuss, and all that...
 
Yes, it is. It's hard to judge though - the performer must be judged totally on talent...not on the way they "sound" or the style they have.
 
Yes it is, but its stupid. If you view music as a competitive sport or some contest you should be shot.

If you want make it big in music today, without signing your soul away, TOUR!!!
 
sure you can compete in music, but each artist has to be judged on an individual basis rather than against one another. Style, originality (in most cases), talent, showmanship, all kinds of things play into the final decision. Whoever gets the highest score wins. At least that's how they run high school band competitions here :)
 
When my High School band goes to competitions we are judged on the difficulty of the music and how we ll we pull it off, our overall sound and how we blend with each other, how accurate we play the music and if its a marching band competiton we are judge on how forms on the field, its visual effect and if all of our feet are in step.
 
I probably strongly dislike Eurovisions as much as MTV. Both a gigantic agglomeration of commercial popmusic or castrated "rock'n roll". Eurovisions integrates the classic ratrace competition system.

De-gueu-lasse.

"See the latest rejects of the muppet show
Wag their tits and their dicks
As they lip-synch on screen

Forget honesty
Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest
That's the name of the game."

-DK's
 
Things like Eurovision are only politics 'vote for the most random country'.

To be successful in music you need to be very talented and good at business or else you will be ignored or abused by everyone.

Most recordings are doctored to the extent that they are perfect. The wonders of technology have enabled us to make nearly anyone sound great, so pretty people are grabbed by business and a star is "made".

In a recent survey it was found that people do not care about digital enhancement or dubbing, and prefer an identical, perfect piece to the original.



What do you think about that? Do you think that live performances should be purely pre-recorded or that the artist should try to create it again from scratch.

Even though so much music is reliant on the use of technology, I still personally prefer the raw, real thing, mistakes and all if I'm seeing something live. (hence I do not particularly like most contempory music).

Just curios but what instruments do people play and how good do you think you are?

I play euphonium well, am learning flugal horn and can sing. (I am more inclined toward classical music although I like everthing, music is my religion you see.)
 
Highschool bands are quite different from the Eurovision. But sure, it is possible to compete in that kind of music, although the value of the competition can be somewhat questioned if, as Kharn said, things like style is in the equation...

I really don't see the Eurovision as a real contest either, as it is just about the show and the songs in themselves. But it gets a bit like a International Hockey Tournament, you have to cheer for your team you know. :wink: And as an added benefit you can sit down with your pals and a bunch of cold brewskies and whine about how much they all suck.
quietfanatic said:
In a recent survey it was found that people do not care about digital enhancement or dubbing, and prefer an identical, perfect piece to the original.
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That's pretty sad. I really want *real* live performances when I go to a concert. Without live music, I could just as well watch a friggin' screen with the artists on, sitting at some arena. Also, I think artists might lose their live edge if they don't have to do anything but mime and nancy around at the stage. But since I'm a metalhead I fortunately get a real live experience at concerts most of the time.

I don't even want overproduced albums. They shouldn't sound like some aggro punk shit, but they shouldn't be produced until *every* little imperfection is removed from the earth either. If you're listening to an album for the n:th time you should damn well be able to pick up some little quirks and imperfections.
 
quietfanatic said:
What do you think about that? Do you think that live performances should be purely pre-recorded or that the artist should try to create it again from scratch.
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Is that even a question?

In my opinion, the best bands out there today are the ones that can play live, and play well. What people seem to forget that there is so much more you can get out of a good concert than on a CD. Theres more of an actual experience.

It saddens me today to see how many performers lip sync and dub in there instruments. It just goes to show how it really isn't even about music anymore.
 
Yeh, the Eurovision song contest sucks. It's like MtV *without* the softcore pr0n.
 
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