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Here he goes again with another gold medal. Heh, wasn't even going to get into his "warring" shit even though he attacks people in his ego-trip news section, I believing that people can have an opinion - just as long as they don't attack the people. Since he decided to add me into your Crusade Against People Who Disagree With Me, I thought I would retort.
Screw it, he's irritating enough, time for Jack to lay the Smack down.
Moonbitch's in red, and taken right from his site in case he decides to change it later to recover from his fuck-ups.
[font color=red]I see stupid people... AKA Rant #2 posted by Moonbiter 09/09/2001 (AKA Don't I look purdy in a mirror, hyuk, hyuk...)[font color=red]
As some of you know rumors are floating about a possible First Person Shooter (FPS) set in the Fallout Universe (IGN). PS Please note that the news item that started this makes references to "the upcoming Fallout Tactics", a game that has been out for months. Stupid rumors.
Wow. Amazing reading skills, eh kiddies? Moonbitch needs to go back to See Spot Run.
[font color=white]Interplay Broadens Fallout
The creative minds of Interplay are always working on overtime. Recently, we got wind (a good Southern breeze, you might say) of a game that may very well appear on the PS2 landscape in the next year based in the Fallout universe. After two Fallout games, both of which were well received on the PC, and the upcoming Fallout Tactics, Interplay is thinking of bringing an action-based, third-person perspective title out, based in the Fallout Universe.
Unless there was some secret code there, or MB's reading is off, WHERE is there any mention of a FPS in there? Most people who can read can conclude a resounding "nowhere". Three magic words for you, Moon. Learn To Read.
I'm suprising that you have people following you, but even the fools need to have a leader, eh?
[font color=red]As soon as word reached the "newsies" the bitching and the whining started. But the worst case of "Look at me mom, I can post!" comes from Rosh over at V13. Check out this little gem here, I do love his ability to take a one paragraph statement and some words from Feargus and map the whole development of this rumored game. Talk about mouth-stuffing.
It's called a prediction, or a projection. An estimation upon what would happen. Particularly when it's starting to look like what happened with Ultima's and X-Com's progression downwards from great games (Ness, I'm sure that you'd agree that the first three games are good. After that, they sink down into mediocrity and garbage to the point where the fanbase doesn't care).
Mouth-stuffing is akin to implying what people are saying
Kind of like you saying that I was talking about a FPS Fallout when I wasn't really.
Now, did I mouth-stuff Feargus?
No I did not. Not when he said that in a long thread on Terra-Arcanum that incidentally was on the news sites. Moronbitcher, get your 'facts' straight before you look like a *complete* fuckwit.
Go ahead, snivel because I'm calling you names. Boo-hoo.
Even though you're rambling about half-assed and mixed-up shit from here on, I'll debunk that load of crap too. (It's like picking on retarded people, a sadistic and shameful act...should I feel bad? Nah.)
[font color=red]Please note I do generalize my responses from not only Rosh's rant but from comments and articles on DAC and other sites.
Oh, I'm *so* glad you take the time to misquote people. Next time, spend your time gettng your shit straight.
[font color=red]Point One: A FPS is whoring the Fallout Universe and no one wants it: Really? Two words for you morons. Wasteland Half-life Wonder how those guys feel knowing they are whoring the FO Universe with a product no one wants?
One, it is a concept whore. Just like an X-Com game that did a bit poorly. Nothing wrong with that, really, if it's done right.
However, when it's done to just make a simple bit of cash off a name, then it's done wrong. Much like how Fallout Tactics was, and it needed much more time than it was given.
Second, did I say nobody wanted it? Not really, and did anyone say that "no one wants it"? Nope. Survey says: full of shit blathering.
I say it's a bad idea for it to follow the way that X-Com did, and Ultima. It would be good...if done well, but all indications of the talent there at Interplay's development teams, it would be an out-of-house job. We've seen what their OOH work is like, with FOT and SFC2. They don't give enough time and funding for the game to be completed and properly bug-tested.
Which leads to conclude that it's a bad idea to do at the juncture in time.
Also, I really like Wasteland Half-Life. I'm looking forward to it's full release quite well, and that's where I direct people to regularly when they talk about a Fallout FPS. The concept is great for a fan-made mod, but as a full production game, it would do poorly unless it set itself above others. Unfortunately, Interplay would need to get an engine, etc. etc. It's not feasable nor practical as a full game, and thus, a bad idea.
That means you're the mouth-stuffing piece of shit. Hope you're proud of yourself. You've made yourself look more the fool than I could ever have done.
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Point Two: Fallout the Shooter is bad. I'm not really into FPS myself, but I have to admit the idea is intriguing and might sell. Look at the success of Half-life. Sure there wouldn't be much use for the SPECIAL system but Fallout is a combination of many things not just that one item. I would have to reserve my judgment until I saw a finished or mostly finished product.
What made up Fallout. Hold on, let's grab a reason why Arcanum isn't supposed to be liked by Fallout fans. According to you Fallout is merely: Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One, rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons, Power Armor. And set in a post-apocalyptic future.
As long as it has those things, it can be a Fallout game, right?
Some people have been around for a while that they know history and can see where people could make the mistakes made by those before them.
Here's a little hint for you. FPS games are even more rabid than the CRPG community. MUCH more. The market is quite fierce, and unless it's going to be something examplary, then it's going to fail. There's been numerous failed FPS due to being rehashes of old ones, but with themes put onto them. Compared to mods of FPS games, some aren't doing too hot. The Wheel of Time did okay for a while, but how many of you have heard of it? Nope, it's a Robert Jordan-flavored Unreal game. *yawn*
So it would have to be a risky venture to make a FPS that would stand out and also be something unlike the regular fare. It would not be a conventional FPS, and it would likely miss it's target audience. Fallout was a CRPG, so it's fan-base was built using CRPG fans. Moving it to a FPS game wouldn't appeal to a bit of it's fans, and it would likely not appeal to FPS gamers at large.
A failed venture would hinder the productivity of Interplay, as their recent bugginess has shown. So such a failed venture would hurt them and their capability to produce good games. Even though I only play a couple, their AD&D CRPGs aren't too bad. A game that isn't like the rest of their titles, and is merely cross-genre for the hell of it, will just hurt them (particularly if it's not polished like how FOT turned out).
Think a bit before you blather.
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I'm sure some of you will bitch no matter what, I bet some of you bitched when you found out the Master wasn't in FO2. "No Master? What that's not Fallout!"
Just like you made a dash against Arcanum, because it didn't have Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One, rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons, Power Armor. And set in a post-apocalyptic future.
Oh, nevermind that it's supposed to be a good CRPG with an in-depth setting, captivating characters, a response of the setting towards your stats and how you play. Kind of like what made Fallout so good, right?
[font color=red]Point Three: Fallout Fans are taking it in the ass!: How is that? Fallout 3 isn't coming, we all know that remember? It costs to much to develop at this time. FOT2, despite rumors and a news report, most likely isn't coming, but that doesn't matter because you hate that game right? So how does a FO Shooter if released, become the equivalent to you taking it in the ass? Oh you just mean you don't get what you want. I don't understand though, you should be happy after all it will give your Interplay sucks mentality a lot more mileage over the next few months, right?
Well, now you show yourself to be a truly clueless fuck.
In case it has passed over your head (which I wouldn't doubt), I actually do like Interplay. Been following them since the time of Wasteland. What I don't like is their progressively foolish choices. They used to be a damn good game developer and producer. Their slipping standards have been costing them hard. Failed ventures like a FPS game that would not be able to compete with the other big ones, would hurt them even more. Think, McFly, think.
This also yanks around the fans by assuming they will buy the game because it just has the name. I know you would, being the epitome of fan-boy. Your boss must *love* the anal attentions you give him. Just don't forget to wipe off your lips with a McDonalds napkin afterwards, okay? I don't want to smell that when I order my nephew a Happy Meal.
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Point Four: Hey, is it any wonder that some Fallout fans in general don't give a shit anymore about the Fallout series aside from two, and another that could have been good but was rushed?: Now this has to be the second stupidest comment in Rosh's rant. What else should they care about? Rumors whored by gaming sites for attention? Sorry, the three games is all that gets my attention until something is officially announced or released.
Gee, I can't judge where the level of this idiotic comment of yours lies. They all seem pretty dumb.
I've seen more fans over the time get jaded by how the carrot gets dangled of Fallout 3 in front of their noses, to spark their attention. Then, what they desire, is ignored. Well, ignored for the most part, save for by name. Feargus has been dangling this carrot in one form or another ever since Fallout 2 was released. In case your memory was your second shortest thing, people came into the Fallout fandom for some of the greatest CRPG games. Not to get teased while they are getting yanked around. What's happening now is the "Romero Burn". Fans get tired of waiting as they are yanked around and listen to the hype, then watch as the name is raped a la X-Com.
Of course, keep preaching to all...30 of your people? (Please note, I'm being generous).
[font color=red]Point Five: Oh, well. Fallout's Dead except for where it really counts- in the hearts of it's fans. : I have to agree with this statement in a weird way. The question that begs to be asked though is '"Are the fans the people who are actively playing the games, promoting the latest game, creating fan fiction, art and generally adding to the Fallout Universe in a positive way or are they guys who bitch and complain about Fallout Tactics or the lack of Fallout 3?"
Well, guess who is the clueless shithead yet again?
Moon, do you enjoy stuffing people's mouths and paying attention to what you want?
First off, I am helping with the Fallout Universe as well. I'm creating a fan-fic/fan-work database, helping mainain a site as well, and also trying to keep Fallout to it's potential. I've also gone out of my way in numerous occasions to try to bring people into the Fallout fandom.
AND NOW FOR THE POINT THAT HAS REALLY ESCAPED THE TOTAL FUCKWIT MOONBITCHER!!!
I've been acting the devil's advocate for quite some time. Of course, I've rubbed some people the wrong way. But then again, I've also tried to help, in a way that would stand out and make people take notice.
Hmmmm, I suppose it would be a bad time to mention that FOT was going to be just a series of maps instead of it's current form - before the irritation came about.
I BET you didn't know THAT, did you?
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Hmm, I guess you will have decide for yourself on that one.
What you fail to understand, is how pearls are made.
[font color=red]Point Six: Arcanum, anyone? : No thanks. Arcanum isn't Fallout 3, it isn't Fallout. Hell it isn't even set in a post-apocalyptic future. It doesn't have Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One. It doesn't have rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons. Does it have Power Armor? So why is it that you keep throwing it in peoples faces, as it was the place for fallout fans to turn?
Let's see, it's another good CRPG with the depth, a well-crafted setting, an enjoyable storyline, flexibility to allow the player to create their character how they wish.
In short, it's much like Fallout save for the superficial aspects that you mentioned. If the bone of the game doesn't mean much to you, I suppose that sets you in with the 'a chaingunn onna tank wold be kewl!' crowd. You think merely of the setting, not the depth of gameplay that has been the defining point of games like Fallout and Arcanum both. It's why even those Fallout fans who dislike AD&D like PS:T despite it using that system, because it is such an in-depth and enjoyable game.
Much more depth than a FPS would offer, right?
Duh-huh...miss that point, George?
[font color=red]Is it because three of the dudes who worked on Fallout made it? So fucking what? James Cameron worked on The Terminator and Titanic. Question, did you see any Terminator fans saying, "What, no Terminator 3!? uh Titanic anyone?" No you didn't you stupid twits so quit doing it to us.
'Dudes'? That's funny, considering this is coming from someone who makes Bill & Ted look absolutely brilliant.
Straw man, again.
So what if it's the same people? What if it was mentioned Planescape: Torment as well? It has the same depth and character development we cherish about Fallout, and it is also a good favorite by many in the Fallout fandom who have played it. But Arcanum is a bit newer, and many already have PS:T.
[font color=red]My suggestion to all of you who hate what Fallout has become is to put your money where your mouth is, go play Arcanum and get so caught up in it that you never come back to Fallout. Ever. Trust me, we won't miss you. Ever.
-Moonbiter
(Translation: if it has Fallout's name on it, I'll fanboy over it. I'll even be the only person who buys 'Fallout: The Bog Roll', if they make it!)
Would it be a bad time to mention that I do like Fallout Tactics in many aspects, but think it could have been implemented in a much better way? Wait, I'm mentioned that already. Numerous times.
But yet again, you need to bitch, snivel, whine and look like the victim for your followers.
I'll be waiting until you can actually show you know what you're talking about.
Here he goes again with another gold medal. Heh, wasn't even going to get into his "warring" shit even though he attacks people in his ego-trip news section, I believing that people can have an opinion - just as long as they don't attack the people. Since he decided to add me into your Crusade Against People Who Disagree With Me, I thought I would retort.
Screw it, he's irritating enough, time for Jack to lay the Smack down.
Moonbitch's in red, and taken right from his site in case he decides to change it later to recover from his fuck-ups.
[font color=red]I see stupid people... AKA Rant #2 posted by Moonbiter 09/09/2001 (AKA Don't I look purdy in a mirror, hyuk, hyuk...)[font color=red]
As some of you know rumors are floating about a possible First Person Shooter (FPS) set in the Fallout Universe (IGN). PS Please note that the news item that started this makes references to "the upcoming Fallout Tactics", a game that has been out for months. Stupid rumors.
Wow. Amazing reading skills, eh kiddies? Moonbitch needs to go back to See Spot Run.
[font color=white]Interplay Broadens Fallout
The creative minds of Interplay are always working on overtime. Recently, we got wind (a good Southern breeze, you might say) of a game that may very well appear on the PS2 landscape in the next year based in the Fallout universe. After two Fallout games, both of which were well received on the PC, and the upcoming Fallout Tactics, Interplay is thinking of bringing an action-based, third-person perspective title out, based in the Fallout Universe.
Unless there was some secret code there, or MB's reading is off, WHERE is there any mention of a FPS in there? Most people who can read can conclude a resounding "nowhere". Three magic words for you, Moon. Learn To Read.
I'm suprising that you have people following you, but even the fools need to have a leader, eh?
[font color=red]As soon as word reached the "newsies" the bitching and the whining started. But the worst case of "Look at me mom, I can post!" comes from Rosh over at V13. Check out this little gem here, I do love his ability to take a one paragraph statement and some words from Feargus and map the whole development of this rumored game. Talk about mouth-stuffing.
It's called a prediction, or a projection. An estimation upon what would happen. Particularly when it's starting to look like what happened with Ultima's and X-Com's progression downwards from great games (Ness, I'm sure that you'd agree that the first three games are good. After that, they sink down into mediocrity and garbage to the point where the fanbase doesn't care).
Mouth-stuffing is akin to implying what people are saying
Kind of like you saying that I was talking about a FPS Fallout when I wasn't really.
Now, did I mouth-stuff Feargus?
No I did not. Not when he said that in a long thread on Terra-Arcanum that incidentally was on the news sites. Moronbitcher, get your 'facts' straight before you look like a *complete* fuckwit.
Go ahead, snivel because I'm calling you names. Boo-hoo.
Even though you're rambling about half-assed and mixed-up shit from here on, I'll debunk that load of crap too. (It's like picking on retarded people, a sadistic and shameful act...should I feel bad? Nah.)
[font color=red]Please note I do generalize my responses from not only Rosh's rant but from comments and articles on DAC and other sites.
Oh, I'm *so* glad you take the time to misquote people. Next time, spend your time gettng your shit straight.
[font color=red]Point One: A FPS is whoring the Fallout Universe and no one wants it: Really? Two words for you morons. Wasteland Half-life Wonder how those guys feel knowing they are whoring the FO Universe with a product no one wants?
One, it is a concept whore. Just like an X-Com game that did a bit poorly. Nothing wrong with that, really, if it's done right.
However, when it's done to just make a simple bit of cash off a name, then it's done wrong. Much like how Fallout Tactics was, and it needed much more time than it was given.
Second, did I say nobody wanted it? Not really, and did anyone say that "no one wants it"? Nope. Survey says: full of shit blathering.
I say it's a bad idea for it to follow the way that X-Com did, and Ultima. It would be good...if done well, but all indications of the talent there at Interplay's development teams, it would be an out-of-house job. We've seen what their OOH work is like, with FOT and SFC2. They don't give enough time and funding for the game to be completed and properly bug-tested.
Which leads to conclude that it's a bad idea to do at the juncture in time.
Also, I really like Wasteland Half-Life. I'm looking forward to it's full release quite well, and that's where I direct people to regularly when they talk about a Fallout FPS. The concept is great for a fan-made mod, but as a full production game, it would do poorly unless it set itself above others. Unfortunately, Interplay would need to get an engine, etc. etc. It's not feasable nor practical as a full game, and thus, a bad idea.
That means you're the mouth-stuffing piece of shit. Hope you're proud of yourself. You've made yourself look more the fool than I could ever have done.
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Point Two: Fallout the Shooter is bad. I'm not really into FPS myself, but I have to admit the idea is intriguing and might sell. Look at the success of Half-life. Sure there wouldn't be much use for the SPECIAL system but Fallout is a combination of many things not just that one item. I would have to reserve my judgment until I saw a finished or mostly finished product.
What made up Fallout. Hold on, let's grab a reason why Arcanum isn't supposed to be liked by Fallout fans. According to you Fallout is merely: Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One, rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons, Power Armor. And set in a post-apocalyptic future.
As long as it has those things, it can be a Fallout game, right?
Some people have been around for a while that they know history and can see where people could make the mistakes made by those before them.
Here's a little hint for you. FPS games are even more rabid than the CRPG community. MUCH more. The market is quite fierce, and unless it's going to be something examplary, then it's going to fail. There's been numerous failed FPS due to being rehashes of old ones, but with themes put onto them. Compared to mods of FPS games, some aren't doing too hot. The Wheel of Time did okay for a while, but how many of you have heard of it? Nope, it's a Robert Jordan-flavored Unreal game. *yawn*
So it would have to be a risky venture to make a FPS that would stand out and also be something unlike the regular fare. It would not be a conventional FPS, and it would likely miss it's target audience. Fallout was a CRPG, so it's fan-base was built using CRPG fans. Moving it to a FPS game wouldn't appeal to a bit of it's fans, and it would likely not appeal to FPS gamers at large.
A failed venture would hinder the productivity of Interplay, as their recent bugginess has shown. So such a failed venture would hurt them and their capability to produce good games. Even though I only play a couple, their AD&D CRPGs aren't too bad. A game that isn't like the rest of their titles, and is merely cross-genre for the hell of it, will just hurt them (particularly if it's not polished like how FOT turned out).
Think a bit before you blather.
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I'm sure some of you will bitch no matter what, I bet some of you bitched when you found out the Master wasn't in FO2. "No Master? What that's not Fallout!"
Just like you made a dash against Arcanum, because it didn't have Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One, rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons, Power Armor. And set in a post-apocalyptic future.
Oh, nevermind that it's supposed to be a good CRPG with an in-depth setting, captivating characters, a response of the setting towards your stats and how you play. Kind of like what made Fallout so good, right?
[font color=red]Point Three: Fallout Fans are taking it in the ass!: How is that? Fallout 3 isn't coming, we all know that remember? It costs to much to develop at this time. FOT2, despite rumors and a news report, most likely isn't coming, but that doesn't matter because you hate that game right? So how does a FO Shooter if released, become the equivalent to you taking it in the ass? Oh you just mean you don't get what you want. I don't understand though, you should be happy after all it will give your Interplay sucks mentality a lot more mileage over the next few months, right?
Well, now you show yourself to be a truly clueless fuck.
In case it has passed over your head (which I wouldn't doubt), I actually do like Interplay. Been following them since the time of Wasteland. What I don't like is their progressively foolish choices. They used to be a damn good game developer and producer. Their slipping standards have been costing them hard. Failed ventures like a FPS game that would not be able to compete with the other big ones, would hurt them even more. Think, McFly, think.
This also yanks around the fans by assuming they will buy the game because it just has the name. I know you would, being the epitome of fan-boy. Your boss must *love* the anal attentions you give him. Just don't forget to wipe off your lips with a McDonalds napkin afterwards, okay? I don't want to smell that when I order my nephew a Happy Meal.
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Point Four: Hey, is it any wonder that some Fallout fans in general don't give a shit anymore about the Fallout series aside from two, and another that could have been good but was rushed?: Now this has to be the second stupidest comment in Rosh's rant. What else should they care about? Rumors whored by gaming sites for attention? Sorry, the three games is all that gets my attention until something is officially announced or released.
Gee, I can't judge where the level of this idiotic comment of yours lies. They all seem pretty dumb.
I've seen more fans over the time get jaded by how the carrot gets dangled of Fallout 3 in front of their noses, to spark their attention. Then, what they desire, is ignored. Well, ignored for the most part, save for by name. Feargus has been dangling this carrot in one form or another ever since Fallout 2 was released. In case your memory was your second shortest thing, people came into the Fallout fandom for some of the greatest CRPG games. Not to get teased while they are getting yanked around. What's happening now is the "Romero Burn". Fans get tired of waiting as they are yanked around and listen to the hype, then watch as the name is raped a la X-Com.
Of course, keep preaching to all...30 of your people? (Please note, I'm being generous).
[font color=red]Point Five: Oh, well. Fallout's Dead except for where it really counts- in the hearts of it's fans. : I have to agree with this statement in a weird way. The question that begs to be asked though is '"Are the fans the people who are actively playing the games, promoting the latest game, creating fan fiction, art and generally adding to the Fallout Universe in a positive way or are they guys who bitch and complain about Fallout Tactics or the lack of Fallout 3?"
Well, guess who is the clueless shithead yet again?
Moon, do you enjoy stuffing people's mouths and paying attention to what you want?
First off, I am helping with the Fallout Universe as well. I'm creating a fan-fic/fan-work database, helping mainain a site as well, and also trying to keep Fallout to it's potential. I've also gone out of my way in numerous occasions to try to bring people into the Fallout fandom.
AND NOW FOR THE POINT THAT HAS REALLY ESCAPED THE TOTAL FUCKWIT MOONBITCHER!!!
I've been acting the devil's advocate for quite some time. Of course, I've rubbed some people the wrong way. But then again, I've also tried to help, in a way that would stand out and make people take notice.
Hmmmm, I suppose it would be a bad time to mention that FOT was going to be just a series of maps instead of it's current form - before the irritation came about.
I BET you didn't know THAT, did you?
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Hmm, I guess you will have decide for yourself on that one.
What you fail to understand, is how pearls are made.
[font color=red]Point Six: Arcanum, anyone? : No thanks. Arcanum isn't Fallout 3, it isn't Fallout. Hell it isn't even set in a post-apocalyptic future. It doesn't have Super Mutants, Ghouls, the BOS, or Enclave Soldiers. It doesn't have Harold, The Master, Frank Horrigan or the Chosen One. It doesn't have rippers, gauss pistols, plasma guns or nuclear weapons. Does it have Power Armor? So why is it that you keep throwing it in peoples faces, as it was the place for fallout fans to turn?
Let's see, it's another good CRPG with the depth, a well-crafted setting, an enjoyable storyline, flexibility to allow the player to create their character how they wish.
In short, it's much like Fallout save for the superficial aspects that you mentioned. If the bone of the game doesn't mean much to you, I suppose that sets you in with the 'a chaingunn onna tank wold be kewl!' crowd. You think merely of the setting, not the depth of gameplay that has been the defining point of games like Fallout and Arcanum both. It's why even those Fallout fans who dislike AD&D like PS:T despite it using that system, because it is such an in-depth and enjoyable game.
Much more depth than a FPS would offer, right?
Duh-huh...miss that point, George?
[font color=red]Is it because three of the dudes who worked on Fallout made it? So fucking what? James Cameron worked on The Terminator and Titanic. Question, did you see any Terminator fans saying, "What, no Terminator 3!? uh Titanic anyone?" No you didn't you stupid twits so quit doing it to us.
'Dudes'? That's funny, considering this is coming from someone who makes Bill & Ted look absolutely brilliant.
Straw man, again.
So what if it's the same people? What if it was mentioned Planescape: Torment as well? It has the same depth and character development we cherish about Fallout, and it is also a good favorite by many in the Fallout fandom who have played it. But Arcanum is a bit newer, and many already have PS:T.
[font color=red]My suggestion to all of you who hate what Fallout has become is to put your money where your mouth is, go play Arcanum and get so caught up in it that you never come back to Fallout. Ever. Trust me, we won't miss you. Ever.
-Moonbiter
(Translation: if it has Fallout's name on it, I'll fanboy over it. I'll even be the only person who buys 'Fallout: The Bog Roll', if they make it!)
Would it be a bad time to mention that I do like Fallout Tactics in many aspects, but think it could have been implemented in a much better way? Wait, I'm mentioned that already. Numerous times.
But yet again, you need to bitch, snivel, whine and look like the victim for your followers.
I'll be waiting until you can actually show you know what you're talking about.
