Karl in Modoc quest.

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Drunken Karl wont talk to me

OK, a new issue for me..i cant save the Slags in Modoc or take Johnny home, cos Jo doesnt believe me about the Ghost Farm until i talk to Karl in the Den. Normally this isnt a problem, but this game i cant get Karl to say anything beyond his dumb GECK/gecko misunderstanding before he passes out. My speech is 47%, IN 8 and CH 5, tho i have tried post Mentats and get no further. I am Level 8, and ive tried night time, day time, waiting for him to wake up, offering him beer, money and Nuka Cola..nothing works. Help me JR, Starseeker,Per ..somebody!!!!
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

"somebody"? Is it that hard to say Splat? I guess that what I get for leaving for a month... newbies don't know me.

You have to get the right conversation line. Save and reload. Your poor speech may have to do with it. By the way, you don't want to talk about the Gecko, you want to talk about like why he left and stuff. Also if he already passed out, I think thats the end. Restart or just move on.

The early bird gets the worm, but the early worm gets eaten. Excuse to sleeping late: "But I'm a worm!"
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

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>guess that what I get
>for leaving for a month...
>newbies don't know me.

You have a short, bad memory Splat. Only a few days ago i called you a drooling cretinous oaf with the IQ of a rubber plant in the 'Ask Me A Question' thread, and i believe you urged me to 'Die'...

Also im not a newbie. I was cruising this site when you were still getting wet dreams over Britney.

Having said that...thanks for the advice. My mommy taught me to be a polite lil vault dweller.
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

>"somebody"? Is it that hard
>to say Splat? I
>guess that what I get
>for leaving for a month...
>newbies don't know me.

Well, when your name is "mud", what do you expect?

No, wait...it isn't mud...
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

LMFAO!Who changed his name inside his post and mine???
 
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Incidentally, Karl still wont talk to me about Modoc,even with Speech at 100% and CH of 8. Im at Navarro already so i guess it doesnt matter, but if someone doesnt tell me what to do, im going to.... punish him....brutally.
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

You can't let him drunk anything. He'll pass out. When talking to him, immediatly choose the option to let him tell his story. Then he'll go of on a rant about the ghosts and about nobody believing him. After his story is done, you can send him on his way to Modoc. If you don't get that dialogue thread, let us know.

Btw how are those wet dreams coming along :D.

JR

Nunc ut nunquam
 
RE: Drunken Karl wont talk to me

Hi JR:-) No, i know the dialogue option from the other four times ive done it, lol.. im not getting those choices. I get 4 options to reply to him:

1)Heres $100
2)Sorry i have nothing for you. Bye.
3)Im looking for a GECK
4)Earlier you were telling me about a garden.

All of these (including the last one) result in his passing out after saying a gecko is a lizard. I have tried every possible combination. All i can assume is that the first time i met him, i must have insulted him, or given him Nuka Cola, but at the time i figured id come back later and fix. I cant remember that far back, and anyway, i finished the game again last night, grins

Im going to start Tactics now for the first time since i quit in frustration a year ago...expect email..LOL
 
Fallout 2 - Problems in modoc, slug mission, Karl

Hello everybody !

My problem is that when i come back with the letter i can tell Jo that i will look after Karl. (1 month )
But even if i talk to him (Karl) no option appears in the dialogue box about Karl , and leaves me to choose from 2 options : attack the ghost farm inhabitants or to get out of the mission

Any help?

Thank you in advance
 
When you talk to Karl he must tell you about the ghost farm. Then just return to Jo and tell him that Karl is in the Den.
 
Go to the Den's east side, and go to the building in the lower right corner of the map, Mom's diner. There's Mom behind the counter, two costumers near the entrance, and Karl is in the back. Basically its the building right in front of Metzger's.
 
Celestial said:
When you talk to Karl he must tell you about the ghost farm. Then just return to Jo and tell him that Karl is in the Den.

Make sure that after you talk to Karl, he no longer enters dialogue (float messages only) - this shows that you're ready to return to Jo (if not, try again, ask him to tell you "his story")
 
(I didn't see anything in the rules against more than one post in the span of a week, so I hope this is alright ...)

I did alot of searching for this in the forums and alot of people had my problem but didn't get a solution, so I'm just wondering if you guys think I'm SOL here.
I'm to the point in the Modoc quest where I gotta find Karl and talk to him about the farm. The problem is ... there isn't an option to listen to his story in Karl's dialogue options.

The dialogue I have is ...
______
You here (hic) to have fun with poor Karl again? (hic) Well, what are you waiting for? (hic) Let's get this over with!
¯¯¯¯¯¯
• Here. Here's $100.
• Here, have a Nuka-Cola.
• Sorry, I don't have anything for you. Bye.
• Do you know where I can find a GECK?


I tried sifting through the trees for something related to a story, but everything seems to just either make him pass out in a drunken sleep or just ends the dialogue. Though, when I ask him about the GECK, he mentions a big garden, or a farm, that he once had, but he doesn't elaborate and just starts speaking gibberish about lizards and passes out. I've been playing this character for awhile so I can't remember, but it's possible I'd spoken to him in the past and maybe given him something he asked for, so it might've messed something up.

I even tried hacking my speech & charisma to maximum(just to find the cause of the problem) and it made no difference.

Anyone have any questions or ideas? I think I just messed up my dialogue with him previously and can't access that option anymore. Which sucks, because I really didn't wanna take the alternate route after seeing the gruesome outcome(Even the kids are killed?! :shock: )

Thanks for any help!
I may just have to suck it up and go through with the killing. :|

TL;DR:
Doing Modoc Slag mission. Can't speak to Karl about his story because there's no dialogue option for it no matter what my stats are, and yes I double-checked and tried all options. Did I screw up early on or is it bugged?
 
There is a rule about searching for answer before asking the question. A search for "karl+modoc" in the Gameplay forum would have solved your problem.

Merging this with earlier Karl threads.
 
Silencer said:
A search for "karl+modoc" in the Gameplay forum would have solved your problem.
My apologies, I probably should've posted to this merge anyway, BUT like I said in my post, I did do a search, and the only answers I could find were things like "You will have either asked him his story beforehand and you won't need to find him again or he will have the dialogue option when you find him in the diner." As for the latter, I don't have the dialogue option there regardless of what tree I sift through and what amount of speech skill my character has, and for the former, I can't complete the quest, so that must mean I haven't asked him his story beforehand, right?

Most of the choices it gives me just ends up with him passed out on the ground, while the rest simply end converation. :(

So it's like I haven't asked him before about his story ... but I can't ask him now because the dialogue option isn't there for some unknown reason. That's what I can't find the answer to ... why the option isn't there, whether it be a bug or a part of the game.
 
You have pissed him off somehow before. You need to give him a drink, wait for a couple of hours for him to come to, then you'll get the story option.

As told here.
 
Per said:
You have pissed him off somehow before. You need to give him a drink, wait for a couple of hours for him to come to, then you'll get the story option.
Oh wow, yep, this did it.
I gave him $100(didn't have a beer on me) and didn't even need to wait. The option popped right up the next time I spoke to him. I can't believe I didn't try that, I just picked options and reloaded after nothing happened. :roll:

Thanks alot, Per :D
 
I... hate to necrobump... but the forum rules don't mention it, and say that you shouldn't make a new thread, as illustrated by Zill above me.

My problem:

After Karl tells the story, he starts crying and refuses to talk to me. I, too, have tried multiple methods, but regardless of what I do, he seems to cry perennially. Can someone give me a hint?
 
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