Psyckosama
First time out of the vault
is there any way to mod it so ghouls use crippled limb animation rather than standard? I mean in the first two the shambled. In FO3 they're like normal people with a extremely serious skin condition...
Limping Ghouls
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First time out of the vault
TheRatKing
Vault Dweller
Might make 'em run slower too. Good idea.
Here's something I thought of for Ferals that I'd like a group opinion on.
Ferals are basically bloodthirsty, flesh hungry, rabid zombies. I doubt they feel pain. There's two ideas I've had for this.
1) Therefore, to -kill- a Feral requires destroying their head. Otherwise, they just get back up after a few moments and resume their attack. This is the "simple" idea, below is another one that's more complicated.
2) Ferals start out as moving very fast (speedmultiplier AV==1.0). They have an incredibly high healrate (which does not affect limb healing) that basically negates all damage they take except for extreme situations (fatman, flamethrower, missile launcher, landmine, etc.). As they take damage, a script on each feral monitors their rate of health decline, and adjusts their speedmultiplier so as you hurt them, they slow down. To actually kill them requires splattering their brains on the wall.
Ferals are basically bloodthirsty, flesh hungry, rabid zombies. I doubt they feel pain. There's two ideas I've had for this.
1) Therefore, to -kill- a Feral requires destroying their head. Otherwise, they just get back up after a few moments and resume their attack. This is the "simple" idea, below is another one that's more complicated.
2) Ferals start out as moving very fast (speedmultiplier AV==1.0). They have an incredibly high healrate (which does not affect limb healing) that basically negates all damage they take except for extreme situations (fatman, flamethrower, missile launcher, landmine, etc.). As they take damage, a script on each feral monitors their rate of health decline, and adjusts their speedmultiplier so as you hurt them, they slow down. To actually kill them requires splattering their brains on the wall.
LogisticEarth
First time out of the vault
Dubby said:
I think he was talking about making the Feral Ghoul model replace the "civilized" ghoul model. Not making all Feral ghouls civilized.
trollshade13
First time out of the vault
Dubby said:
I have to strongly disagree with this one,
this is making fallout ghouls plain zombies...
fact: shooting everything in the head kills it.
but ghouls are still living things, when you blast their heart out (for example) they would drop dead like normal living things
I can agree with the "feel no pain" zone, but have some biology to keep em realistic...
LogisticEarth said:
The difference is Ferals have custom animations, and their model is classified as (CREA) a creature entry... the 'Ghouls' on the other hand, are classified as a race, and use the same animations all the NPCs use... and can therefore equip stuff. I don't know if the animations that Ferals use supports weapon animations.
trollshade13 said:
I know, but there really isn't a "Hah! I ripped its heart out~" feature there. However, I think having a crippled torso could work to that effect. So consider this then; please;... Granted their speedmultiplier drops steadily as they take damage, significant damage kills them outright, and knocking their head off/to pieces also kills them outright ... what if the healrate is cancelled or reduced greatly if their torso becomes crippled? This could also be done for having the arms & legs crippled, but I am a little weary to take it that far as that adds four more troublesome routines to run on each and every feral in the game.
I feel ferals are... underpowered in vanilla, and simply giving them more max health just doesn't "sit well" with me.
As always, opinion & input is greatly appreciated.
Dubby said:
I had an idea for an area added to the subway tunnels where you find a feral ghoul society and realize that they aren't mindless zombies and that they just don't/can't conform to civilization so everyone just assumes they are because of the way they look.
Kind of like Set's gang but somewhat more pitiable... mental patients, in a way.
Explains them better than "they just got too much radiation and went bonkers!" but still doesn't clash with existing dialogues.
trollshade13
First time out of the vault
then I agree with you, a crippled torso (a damaged heart or vascular system) would destroy them
while a shatterd leg or arm, doesn't
maybe they'd hit for less or are slower.
and let only crippled torso decrease healing
while a shatterd leg or arm, doesn't
maybe they'd hit for less or are slower.
and let only crippled torso decrease healing
Dubby said:LogisticEarth said:
The difference is Ferals have custom animations, and their model is classified as (CREA) a creature entry... the 'Ghouls' on the other hand, are classified as a race, and use the same animations all the NPCs use... and can therefore equip stuff. I don't know if the animations that Ferals use supports weapon animations.
But it's just putting the skin texture from Ferals to Civilized.