MCA talks about Mariposa

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Ever wondered why there were mutants before Richard Grey aka the Master, well good old Chris Avellone took some time to explain...well....:<blockquote>Q: But the reason they go to Mariposa in the first place is because it's already a 'factory' churning out legions of mutants. But nowhere else does it mention these mutants, how they were being manufactured, or what happened to them.

Ivan: I think they were just being created by the FEV-saturated environment of the base. No one was intentionally dunking the muties; if they had been, they would have finished off Grey after he pulled himself from the vat.

MCA: What Ivan said - critters would just find their way down to the areas where the vats were, become contaminated, then come crawling out again.</blockquote>So there you have it, straight from the man behind the Fallout Bible..
Thanks goes out to Briosafreak for informing me..
Link: Mariposa thread
 
Now, I don't believe I've seen this answered, but why did the FEV affect poor old Doc Grey so differently than anyone else? After all, none of your other Super Mutants (seemingly regardless of their origins) turned into a tentacled monster that can grow into a Vault's electronics or absorb other animals and people. Then there is also Harold, who turned into something closer than a ghoul, though he's a more reasonable case, since he was exposed to FEV but not dipped.
 
The results won’t always successful, so I’m guessing he was a failure and that’s why he turned into that ‘thing’.
 
Kotario said:
Now, I don't believe I've seen this answered, but why did the FEV affect poor old Doc Grey so differently than anyone else?
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You obviously didnt read the sign on the vats.. "Actual results may vary."
 
Grey soaked in it for a long, long, long time. Then he played around with the FEV a bit to create Supermutants. Along the way, he made some floaters and centaurs while tinkering.

He also ate some rats and other critters during that time. MMMmmmm... rats.

Oh yeah, like Ratty said.. Pretty friggin' obvious.
 
Also that had been in the wastes for a while and would likely have been exposed to a lot of Rads so this would also differ the effects of the mutations, remeber for the supper mutants they were looking for "clean" un-radidated humans to dip, not radiation exposed people who already had there share of mutantions. So maybe if you dip a ghoul you would get something like Grey
 
Great, Odin posts a tiny bit of Fallout trivia, and now I can't stop thinking about Richard Grey, mutants and FEV.

Oh well, at least my mind is no longer concerned with devising a real working lightsaber.
 
Wild_qwerty said:
Also that had been in the wastes for a while and would likely have been exposed to a lot of Rads so this would also differ the effects of the mutations, remeber for the supper mutants they were looking for "clean" un-radidated humans to dip, not radiation exposed people who already had there share of mutantions.
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I thought that they were looking for rad-free subjects to make intelligent mutants (like the lieutenant) as the radiated (ie: partially mutated already) subjects made stupid mutants (like Harry et al at the waterhouse in Necropolis).
That's why they were so interested in the vaults, as the vault dwellers would be pretty "clean".
 
Big_T_UK said:
I thought that they were looking for rad-free subjects to make intelligent mutants (like the lieutenant) as the radiated (ie: partially mutated already) subjects made stupid mutants (like Harry et al at the waterhouse in Necropolis).

That's why they were so interested in the vaults, as the vault dwellers would be pretty "clean".
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The radiated people produced more random effects in the super mutant creation from what Chris Taylor said. You want more predictability in the process, smart person goes in, very smart mutant comes out. Strong person goes in, very strong mutant comes out.

Not to mention mutants that need their faces strapped on just aren't as useful as those with working faces.
 
Saint_Proverbius said:
You want more predictability in the process, smart person goes in, very smart mutant comes out. Strong person goes in, very strong mutant comes out.
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So the FEV mutation process ("Dipping") was much more efficient and predictable without the influence of radiation.

Kotario said:
Now, I don't believe I've seen this answered, but why did the FEV affect poor old Doc Grey so differently than anyone else?
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The answer to this was something along the lines of "He was more susceptible to the effects of FEV". That, coupled with the longer exposure time and the wildcard of the high rad levels in his system, created an unusual result. He wasn't originally as odd as when you meet him in the game, it was only after absorbing the successful mutations (both human and animal) that his advanced tate of mutation was reached. Grey was the Unity, that's what he was on about when he talked about it, the subjects being absorbed by him. I assume that's why there were so few (one - the leiutenant (and even he was a bit fucked up)) successful mutants, all the others had joined the Unity.
 
There's also the point that mutants were dipped.

Grey fell in and stayed in for some time, if I recall correctly.
 
Yes, radiation afected Richard Gray much more because he spent much more time contaminated by the virus than any other mutant and he even consumed people, that's why he was such an ugly mother. Nobody before him had been so much time swimming in that stuff.

I don't know this for sure, but i think it was a coincidence that Richard Gray became so inteligent, he would most likely become an preety dumb ugly monster than The Master.

Correct me if i'm wrong, i don't have here the FO bible to check.
 
I thought Richard Grey was originally a vault dweller and as such had a very low rad-count. As described by the computer at the glow, the effect of genetic damage caused by exposure to radiation is what interferes with the FEV. It always seemed to me that his eventual goal was to create more mutants such as himself and that the supermutants were only a means to an end.

Possibly the loss of body shape retention was caused more by dying or near death whilst re-elvolving than by differences in FEV or rad counts. After all, where did the floaters and other mutant creatures come from but for failed dippings?
 
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