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I Love all you mod guys! If you are able to make the programs you have all been talking about, I will finaly be able to create my TC or sorta TC. Anyways I LOVE YOU GUYS, but I have to ask, why would you spend all this time to create the programs and then just release them on the internet for Free?


On another note, how did the BOS chat go for you people who where there. I was there, but my friend called and asked If I would play GTA with him, and because he was leaving for a month I gave in. I was still in there, I was going to read it all after I got out, but stuipd me shut it down.

Thats all I have to say
 
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jul-05-00 AT 05:02PM (GMT)[p]>I have to
>ask, why would you spend
>all this time to create
>the programs and then just
>release them on the internet
>for Free?
Some time ago I was searching for an appropriate hosting service, and so I visited one hosting server, and there was sorta FAQ on the main page:


What does your service do?
We provide space for your webpages blah blah blah

Why are you doing that?
Because it's fun.


That's all I can say :))

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
 
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-00 AT 10:33PM (GMT)[p]> why would you spend all this time to create the
> programs and then just release them on the
> internet for Free?

First, I love programming.
Second, I think it would be stupid to put a price for a program that modifies a game.
Third, we do this for fun.
Fourth, we do this for us, and because the public likes it, we give all what we know and do to the public.
Fifth, Dr. W95, you don't program, so, shut up! ;))))

> On another note, how did the BOS chat go for
> you people who where there. I was there, but my
> friend called and asked If I would play GTA
> with him, and because he was leaving for a
> month I gave in. I was still in there, I was
> going to read it all after I got out, but
> stuipd me shut it down.

Miroslav uploaded the whole chat, you can find the link in the index page (where the news are).

Quick link: http://fallout.gamestats.com/tactics/chat/03072000.txt
 
Hey! Don't shut me up man! I know FoxPro and Javascript, and C a little, and I'm learning VB as soon as i will get a compiler!

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
 
Okay okay!

He knows to program in a language specially made for data base management and a scripting language for the web!

Aah, and a little bit of C...

Is that alright? ;-)
 
Actually JavaScript from programming point is no different that VB. They both have simplified model of programming.
 
yeah.. OOP whittled down as much as possible.

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin

P.S. MatuX, you never programmed on FoxPro, so shut up! FoxPro rulez! RuLeZZZZ!!! :)
 
JavaScript is based on Java, which was implemented by Microsoft under the J+ language.

J++ is hell different from VB, the main difference is that J++ uses a garbage-collection system who seems to enjoy never flushing the memory until the program finishes, it's slower and at this time MS J++ is just a beta.

Also, J++ was originally optimized for the web and connectivity environments (just like Delphi, aka The Competition), but then both languages started to have optimizations for common Win32 environments (Delphi is much better than J++).

At this point we could say that Delphi is an equivalent over VB, but Delphi requires 5 thousand different Dlls (VB just requires MSVBVM60.dll) and the worse, a small stupid program never has a size less than 500kb. And it's slower.

But for the sake of God, don't compare J++ with VB!

PD: VB has no competition! ;)
PD2: VB is more used than Delphi. And more requested by real companies.
PD3: Having a "simplified mode of programming" does not mean that they're the same.
PD4: Visual Basic is not Basic, like Visual J is not Java, like C++ is not C, and like Delphi is not Pascal). They just use the same structure. This is just for clearing.
 
>yeah.. OOP whittled down as much as possible.

What did you said doesn't have any sense, you know?

>FoxPro rulez! RuLeZZZZ!!! :)

And no, FoxPro doesn't rulez :P
 
I said that both JavaScript and VB are oop whittled down as much as possible.
And how could you know if FoxPro rulez or not, if you never programmed on it?

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
 
>JavaScript is based on Java
Oh pleease!!! JS is way more different from Java then C from CPP!!

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
 
>JavaScript is based on Java.

JavaScript has very little to do which Java.

> which was implemented by Microsoft under the J language.
>J is hell different from VB, the main difference is that J uses a garbage-collection system who >seems to enjoy never flushing the memory until the program finishes, it's slower and at this time MS >J is just a beta.
> Also, J was originally optimized for the web and connectivity environments (just like Delphi, aka >The Competition), but then both languages started to have optimizations for common Win32 >environments (Delphi is much better than J ).

It’s very interesting but not all of it is correct and all of it not relevant to our discussion

>But for the sake of God, don't compare J with VB!

I don’t. My point is what both JavaScript and VB use practicle the same event model and object model
Also both of them hide a lot of low level work from the user. So programing in both of this languages
Is very similar but they used in different areas.

>PD: VB has no competition! ;)
VB is for people what don’t know how to programming in C :)

>PD2: VB is more used than Delphi. And more requested by real companies.

Microsoft rulz !!!! :)

>PD3: Having a "simplified mode of programming" does not mean that they're the same.
No but programming is very similar

>PD4: Visual Basic is not Basic, like Visual J is not Java, like C is not C, and like Delphi is not >Pascal). They just use the same structure. This is just for clearing.

You knowledge just amazing :) :)
 
>
>It’s very interesting but not all
>of it is correct and
>all of it not relevant
>to our discussion
>

You said that a scripting language from programming point is not different from VB.

I'm sure that I didn't correctly understood your phrase here. :)

>>But for the sake of God, don't compare J with
>>VB!
>
>I don’t. My point is what
>both JavaScript and VB use
>practicle the same event model
>and object model
>Also both of them hide a
>lot of low level work
>from the user. So programing
>in both of this languages
>Is very similar but they used
>in different areas.

As far as I know, the OOP can't be changed, it's the same system through every language. The only thing that changes is the way it's reached.

And the reaching way of VB is 99% the same than C++.

>
>>PD: VB has no competition! ;)
>VB is for people what don’t
>know how to programming in
>C :)
>

Wise words :)

>>PD3: Having a "simplified mode of programming"
>>does not mean that they're the same.
>No but programming is very similar

But what are you talking about when you say "programming is very similar". Do you talk about the general structure? About the quantity or quality of functions? About the "freedom to code"?

>
>>PD4: Visual Basic is not Basic, like Visual J
>>is not Java, like C is not C, and like Delphi
>>is not >Pascal). They just use the same
>>structure. This is just for clearing.
>
>You knowledge just amazing :) :)
>

Heh, there're still a lot of people who thinks that VB IS Basic. :)
 
>I said that both JavaScript and VB are oop
>whittled down as much as possible.
>And how could you know if FoxPro rulez or not,
>if you never programmed on it?

You gotta work your english a little, I think...

"OOP whittled down as much as possible"

Can be understood like if the OOP have been whittled down. Not that they're OOPs that has been whittled down.

And about "as much as possible". I don't think if that much... Really, JavaScript is a script language, so it has no "powerfulness" comparation with a programming language. And about VB... Blah... don't say those things to my beloved VB! :D


About FoxPro...
How do I know? Because I read. I readed a lot about programming languages (I really really love that topic which I just discovered this year).
But I think that the most influent part of FoxPro is where the MSDN Library says:

"Welcome to Visual FoxPro 6.0, the object-oriented database management system that allows you to create state-of-the-art enterprise database solutions."

It does not even say that it's a programming language!
 
>And the reaching way of VB is 99% the same than >C++.

While you programming in VB do you use simple or multiple inheritance ? Do you use polymorphism in VB ?

>But what are you talking about when you say
>"programming is very similar". Do you talk about
>the general structure? About the quantity or
>quality of functions? About the "freedom to
>code"?

“Look and feel” if you like I has programmed to some extend or another on C/C++ VB Java Javascript and for me programming in C++ and Java was very similar, VB and JavaScript is also very similar. But this two groups is very different one from other.
 
>While you programming in VB do you use simple or
>multiple inheritance ?

Multiple.

>Do you use polymorphism
>in VB?

Yep. Really :-)

AFAIK, both were implemented in VB5.

>“Look and feel” if you like I has programmed to
>some extend or another on C/C++ VB Java
>Javascript and for me programming in C++ and
>Java was very similar, VB and JavaScript is also
>very similar. But this two groups is very
>different one from other

Your english is a bit difficult to understand, but, I think I catched your meaning.

But I don't know how far a scripting language and a programming language can be compared, but, you had the experience, I didn't. You're the wise guy. ;)
 
>But I think that the most
>influent part of FoxPro is
>where the MSDN Library says:
>
>
>"Welcome to Visual FoxPro 6.0, the
>object-oriented database management system that
>allows you to create state-of-the-art
>enterprise database solutions."
>
>It does not even say that
>it's a programming language!
Hey, wasn't that said about FoxPro as a program, not as a programming language.
Look, i am not saying anything about VB, and you ain't saying anything 'bout FoxPro, OK? ;)

~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
 
I'm not saying anything about FoxPro, just that it isn't a programming language so you don't have to catalogue it like if it was.

Everything is fine :-)
 
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