Motherboard/CPU

- never take an Intel made board for a desktop. BIOS settings and restrictions are a nightmare.

- striker extreme is pretty overhyped & is rather expensive, you sure you want to give that much money to a board?

- E6700 is pretty much a bad investment. i've got a cpu of half the price that easily clocks past your bigass expensive mofo cpu.

- why 2 nvidia chipsets? i dont see the obvious

anyhow, i've got a feeling you're better off buying an upper middlerange overclocking motherboard, a midrange cpu, higher end memory and a cooling solution other than stock crap, instead of throwing away money on a top end cpu and a top end mobo.

if you're going to throw away money, you might as well get yourself a next-gen quad or something.

PS: time & time again i've said this, but here i go again: whenever you ask for hardware advice, specify your particular needs and budget.


Disclaimer: i'm tired & my brain has been fried by alcohol & excessive sunshine. carry on.
 
Fair enough.

Looking something that will be future proof for 2-3 years.

I'm wanting to have something that can handle Bioshock without concern.

Budget is roughly 700-800 bucks for MB/CPU/Memory.

The list I gave was solicitations from others, but apparently they are off their rocker.

Show me the way of righteousness.
 
Oh yea, I'm not looking to do anything until August or so anyway, just getting my ducks lined up.

I actually have that CPU as a potential, but am waiting until a price drop.

Any M/B suggestions?
 
Pope Viper said:
Oh yea, I'm not looking to do anything until August or so anyway, just getting my ducks lined up.
it's not worthwhile to wonder about it now then. the hardware market isn't that predictable.

ask again when you're almost ready to buy.
 
It's your choice whether to take the plunge now or give it a little time. I was planning to upgrade too but a little expense (trip to Brazil) will slash my budget. Considering what's coming up both from AMD and Intel, it's good that I wasn't able to upgrade right away. Intel is coming up with new chipsets and a new manufacturing process (45nm). After these are released, you'll be able to buy 65nm technology cheaper. AMD, on the other hand, will come with a complete upgrade to their processor architecture (not unlike the one that Intel had with Core 2) and will contribute to a price drop in their gear as well.

Taken from Wikipedia:

"Penryn

The successor to the Merom core currently used for the Core 2 Duo T5000/T7000 series mobile processors, code-named Penryn, will debut the 45 nanometer process that will also be used for the Conroe sequel, Wolfdale (see below). Many details about Penryn appeared at the April 2007 Intel Developer Forum. Its successor is expected to be Nehalem.

Important advances[27] include the addition of new instructions (including SSE4, also known as Penryn New Instructions) and new fabrication materials (most significantly a hafnium-based dielectric).

Penryn is intended to be paired with a new chipset, Bearlake[28], which will include an increase in bus speed (connection to the northbridge, etc.) for certain models to 1333 MT/s and will include support for DDR3 SDRAM; Intel believes [29] that DDR3 is particularly useful in the power- and heat-constrained environments within mobile equipment.

Penryn will also be released in a quad-core version for desktop replacement notebooks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_K10

If you really need a few tech tips, you can try posting your request on the Tomshardware forums (the CPU one). They helped me cobble together a system that otherwise would be much more expensive.
 
ATM I'd suggest:

MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127019
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115014

It will leave you with great amount of cash for MEM and cooling (+PSU?), and will easily outperform stock E6700. However if you are not in hurry, maybe there will be presented sth interesting based on P35, but all in all IMO it is not worth jumping to it yet.

Other thoughts:

MEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227139

PSU - Corsair or BeQuiet , arounf 500W will do.

Cooling - Scythe Infinity or Noctua
 
Ok, as August is approaching, I am now ready to start getting my shopping list together.

I've got about 1100.00 to spend. I'm wanting to get CPU/MB/Memory and a Video card.

I don't need to worry about a case or a power supply.

Again, I'm going for future proofing, having the ability to upgrade the CPU in the future is desired.

I'm initially going with 2Gb, unless a good deal for 4Gb is presented.

Thoughts?
 
Pope Viper said:
Fair enough.

Looking something that will be future proof for 2-3 years.

I'm wanting to have something that can handle Bioshock without concern.

Budget is roughly 700-800 bucks for MB/CPU/Memory.

The list I gave was solicitations from others, but apparently they are off their rocker.

Show me the way of righteousness.[/
quote]

Look for my post in what's your gaming rig
Those parts I got at zipzoomfly were 850 bucks. And I got free shipping. If I install windows vista on it... it should be good for 4 or 5 years.
 
Whoops, sorry SuAside, I accidently edited your post.

I'm wanting to play Bioshock/Crysis at max settings/detail, I would also anticipate running Vista and some point.

Recommended for Bioshock
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo processor
System RAM: 2GB
Video card:
DX9: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT or better)
DX10: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 or better
Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards
System RAM: 2GB
Video card:
DX9: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT or better)
DX10: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 or better
Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards[/quote]

I'm also going to be doing some video editing/Photoshopping.

Ideally, I'd like for this thing to last a couple of years.
 
The big question atm is what CPU to get.

Q6600, E6850 or E6750.


E6750 is the weakest one but gives most bang for the buck. Even more so if you intend to OC.

E6850 is the fastest and seem to clock very well.

Q6600 is the only one with quad core (2x2), but its not as fast as the other two in clockspeed. The quad seems to be of must use if you do heavy graphic rendering etc.

The AMD have x2 6000+

It have a good price, but after INTELs pricedrop its not worth it imo. But i think AMD might try and counter this and dropp the price even lower. We will see.
 
Pope Viper said:
Whoops, sorry SuAside, I accidently edited your post.
ADMIN ABUSE!

Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Pope Viper said:
alrighty. i'll do some digging tomorrow & see what i can come up with.

the main problem will be the graphics card really. atm there is no dx10 card that i can really support (price/quality/longevity).
 
SuAside said:
ADMIN ABUSE!

Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Keep that up, and you'll REALLY see admin abuse. :D

Pope Viper said:
alrighty. i'll do some digging tomorrow & see what i can come up with.

the main problem will be the graphics card really. atm there is no dx10 card that i can really support (price/quality/longevity).[/quote]

Cool, appreciate your help. Like, I said, I've got about 1200 to play with strictly for CPU/MB/Mem/Video, so hopefully I can get rockin' system for that.
 
There aren't many DX10 cards to choose from?

8800 ULTRA - expensive

8800GTX - Good card, but its not free...

8800GTS - Maybe what you are looking for, it wont last forever but it is a fair card atm.


x2900xtx - Need some time to get drivers right, have lots of potential.

x2900xt - Same as above.

I think its better to wait for some DX10 games to come out so you can see what the cards can do. Its to early to judge. And there wont be many DX10 games in the near future so it might even be worth waiting for the next gen DX10 cards imo.

I do want to play Crysis with a DX10 card. But its noth worth getting a new card only for like a few games.
 
It also depends which GTS you get, as the 640 meg is only a bit more expensive, but has much more VRAM.
 
keyser Soeze said:
There aren't many DX10 cards to choose from?
if you're refering to my statement, well, i never said there werent

keyser Soeze said:
I think its better to wait for some DX10 games to come out so you can see what the cards can do. Its to early to judge. And there wont be many DX10 games in the near future so it might even be worth waiting for the next gen DX10 cards imo.
which is why my C2D rig is sitting on a X1950Pro and not a DX10 card.
 
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