NCR Industry.

Lone Cat

It Wandered In From the Wastes
Another question regarding to the New California Republic. by the times of FONV, the NCR has a significant Industrial capability. though there's much for the Republic to develop.
For now. i think they have
1. Agro Industry, a big one! notably i guess that industrial-level of Brahmin ranchs became common sights by the time of 2277 ..or even by FO2. according to Myron, a nerd who discovered how to produce Methamphetamine (Marketed 'Jet' possibly by the Mordinos mafia) out of Brahmin feces, worked, and lived in a brahmin ranch called Stables.. (correct?)
2. Mining industry. by the FONV, Redding, and any mining settlement around Sierra Nevada is now firmly belongs to NCR.
3. pre-WW2 electric and electronics industry. (Mr. House, Enclave and the Brotherhood inherit the electronics technology of the 2077). i think the NCR can produce military-grade radio
4. Automotive industry. it is established that NCR has an Air force consists of a significant numbers of aerial fleets. notably a 1940s level of automotive tech.
5. Forestry industry. somehow, either Geck or postwar mutations created a new breed of fast-growing trees (or maybe Harold's seeds)


Here comes the question.
1. By the time of FONV. it is clear that Petroleum is no longer in use. either the fact that the the World is devoid of this resource, or it's not popular anymore. Does NCR has plastics industry? if they DO have one, and if they don't use petroleum, what else do they use as a raw material?
2. Do NCR Scientists discovered any wonders out of Brahmin sh1ts? wastelanders known to use its feces as a fuel for their campfires. (and it is said that the fires lit from this fuel last very long, dunno if it last as long as coal?). so the NCR should somehow use one on automotive combustion engine. but how?
Do they have any technology to make a liquid fuel out of brahmin feces? if the biomass gass can be made out of one and stored.
3. Do NCR have any capability to produce fusion engine a new? not jury-rigging an existing fusion reactor or MF cells.
4. Do they have any capability to produce fission battery? i'm not sure if Uranium is still mined by this itme?
 
Lone Cat said:
Agro Industry
Lone Cat said:
Forestry industry.

It's important to mention that NCR has a big agro/food crisis at hand, as Hildern mentions, in period of a decade or so, there will be a mass food shortage, especially if the expansion continues. They're in dire need of a green revolution, and easy, nutritive, fast-growing plants, hence that quest in FNV.

That being said, it ties to forestry. NCR probably chops woods here and there, but I'm not sure if they can grow trees of intensified growth, given the situation with food crisis. It's a same problem, in its core. Too few plants, too slow growing, too many mouths. Problem with usable wood is similar. But there are areas where NCR can get wood from, if they can.
Still, everything about forestry is nothing more but a far-fetched assumption.

Lone Cat said:
1. By the time of FONV. it is clear that Petroleum is no longer in use.

Actually, I think it is still in use. Or, if it isn't, there's certainly a different sort of fuel used.

There are dozens of military trucks in Camp McCarran which look completely fine and in drive-able state. It is likely that NCR uses this for troop deployment.
These trucks either run on petroleum, or some alternative fuel. Alternatives could be sort of engine similar to the one in the Highwayman driven by the Chosen One, which, if I'm not wrong, runs on Micro-fusion cells or energy cells. Considering that Courier can craft MFC and EC on reloading benches, it is safe to assume that NCR does that too, probably way more effectively and in some way of mass-production. They could also be using some Enclave technology for this (after all, they did take over Navarro, and they do have Vertibirds).

Or, on the other hand, if you look at Fallout 3 (if you consider it canon, that is), vehicles run on some sort of nuclear powered engine. That one sounds pretty dumb to me, as having small nuclear reactors installed in cars during the inflation and overall Uranium-crisis doesn't make much sense, but eh, it's there in the game. Guess this one depends on your views of Fallout 3 and its canon breaking elements.

Lone Cat said:
2. Do NCR Scientists discovered any wonders out of Brahmin sh1ts?

I doubt that. Even if they did, it would be a bit too much, if you ask me. Next thing would be making gold out of Brahmin poop. Long live alchemy.

Though, you mention some sort of fuel made of feces. I don't think it's possible, but making fuel out of some sort of biological waste (like diesel engines running on bio-fuel) doesn't seem impossible, but I'm not sure how much would an option like that be viable. Perhaps on household level, among Brahmin ranchers and such, but for mass usage? I don't think so.


Lone Cat said:
3. Do NCR have any capability to produce fusion engine a new?

They could, perhaps, if they had adequate workforce and scientist. "Scientists" like Fantastic don't promise much, or nothing at all, but NCR could have more capable people back West.
Still, judging by the way Fantastic claims he was given the position, and Hildern's complaints about lack of personnel, NCR may have a shortage of intelligence at their hand.

They probably have the technology, after taking Navarro, and winning considerable portions of Brotherhood territory and presumably technology in the war (for all we know, they could've conquered Lost Hills bunker with all its sweet tech). Not to mention various Poseidon Energy reactors, Vault City, factories and similar, they have considerable technology and potential under their belt.

But, like I've said, perhaps they have a problem with personnel. They certainly have that one back East, around Vegas.
 
Lone Cat said:
1. Agro Industry, a big one! notably i guess that industrial-level of Brahmin ranchs became common sights by the time of 2277 ..or even by FO2. according to Myron, a nerd who discovered how to produce Methamphetamine (Marketed 'Jet' possibly by the Mordinos mafia) out of Brahmin feces, worked, and lived in a brahmin ranch called Stables.. (correct?)

They are suffering a population explosion that taxes their agricultural capability.

2. Mining industry. by the FONV, Redding, and any mining settlement around Sierra Nevada is now firmly belongs to NCR.

Yep.

3. pre-WW2 electric and electronics industry. (Mr. House, Enclave and the Brotherhood inherit the electronics technology of the 2077). i think the NCR can produce military-grade radio

Not on an industrial scale. They have limited manufacturing possibilities entirely by hand.

4. Automotive industry. it is established that NCR has an Air force consists of a significant numbers of aerial fleets. notably a 1940s level of automotive tech.

The NCR doesn't have any air force. The only bit of aerial power they have is Bear Force One. No other are confirmed. They *do* operate vehicles, but primarily for transportation of large volumes of ordnance and gear (to estabilish McCarran for example). They aren't used regularly or casually.

5. Forestry industry. somehow, either Geck or postwar mutations created a new breed of fast-growing trees (or maybe Harold's seeds)

Debatable.

1. By the time of FONV. it is clear that Petroleum is no longer in use. either the fact that the the World is devoid of this resource, or it's not popular anymore. Does NCR has plastics industry? if they DO have one, and if they don't use petroleum, what else do they use as a raw material?

First you need to take into account the Divergence and the switch from disposable to reusable equipment before the war. Metal, wood, glass, all are in use. Plastics are not, as they are expensive and hard to manufacture. Note how even the stimpak is metal and glass.

2. Do NCR Scientists discovered any wonders out of Brahmin sh1ts? wastelanders known to use its feces as a fuel for their campfires. (and it is said that the fires lit from this fuel last very long, dunno if it last as long as coal?). so the NCR should somehow use one on automotive combustion engine. but how?
Do they have any technology to make a liquid fuel out of brahmin feces? if the biomass gass can be made out of one and stored.

Biogas, maybe. Shitfuel? HArdly. As Boomers show, whatever they use for oil is probably biodiesel from crops.

3. Do NCR have any capability to produce fusion engine a new? not jury-rigging an existing fusion reactor or MF cells.

Debatable, but I'm gravitating towards no. If they do have, it's probably very, very expensive and in very, very limited amounts. There is a handful of fusion generators scattered across NCR bases, but they're limited.

4. Do they have any capability to produce fission battery? i'm not sure if Uranium is still mined by this itme?

Broken Hills imploded, so they probably rely on rechargeable batteries, rather than the high tech batteries that require very expensive facilities and specialists to make.
 
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1. Is food shortage a reason why NCR must annex New Vegas? What is a gambit the government hopes for? fishing in Lake Mead? bah! a new plantation ground? not likely.
Las Vegas is preserved by Mr. House's keen sights, and his 'Star Wars' thing. but it doesn't mean that Las Vegas and Mojave desert survives the black rain.
2. mm NCR needs to know how to manufacture electrical and electronical components ANEW and not just about repairing an existing ones. WHAT needs that to be done? and does NCR really has that tech?
3. so then NCR has the tech level of early WW1 or earlier. right? so how do they maintain Bear Force One vertibird? Maintaining ones requires that a nation state that owns Vertibird can produce replacement parts for it. and not solely rely on salvaging bird wrecks the Enclave left behind. for now it might be a plentiful given that the Enclave deploys SO MANY of them. but one day those wrecks will all be scavenged. either by the NCR or someone else.
ok what's their military tactics? if NCR Army is exactly 'motorized infantry' then how would it be? which of the real life wars do NCR 'emulates'?
4. About plastics. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_armor
The storyline clearly says that combat armor is made of plastics. the FO3 dirty water and purified water bottle is also plastic too! while in the FO world. hydrocarbon chemistry (science and tech needed to make plastics) is somehow lags behind us. it doesn't mean plastics don't exists here. just not so common, nor advanced.

Now on construction industry. How do NCR make concrete? how do NCR buildings build? purely same ol' carpentry and masonry alone? does Redding and its neighbouring cities supply materials needed to make cement or concrete?

meow.
 
Lone Cat said:
1. By the time of FONV. it is clear that Petroleum is no longer in use. either the fact that the the World is devoid of this resource, or it's not popular anymore. Does NCR has plastics industry? if they DO have one, and if they don't use petroleum, what else do they use as a raw material?
Plastic polymers can be made out of polysaccharydes, like cellulose.
 
yep. Cellulose is a material that makes movie films, and capsules (Rad X. for example). but beside cellulose, gimme the lists of polymers that made of agro products. meow

About 'combat armor' set and variants. it is clearly said that after the war. the armor became a sought after treasure. only a limited numbers of weareres wear it. (quite an Irony, while 'Metal Armor' can have a post-war origin.. i.e. made of scrap metals and salvaged steel sheets taken from any wrecks one can find. the wearer is not so common compared to the aramid 'combat armor'. well the post-war posession of this piece of armor set are either original ownerships dated back through the pre-war era, or the following
- passed on from the original wearer, as it is one's heritage.
- trading
- treasure hunt
- post-combat loot.
the armor is still rare even by the time of NCR. this reflected from the facts that NCR troopers wear WW1 trench uniform and (maybe) pith helmet.
this suggested that the polymers that make this armor is clearly petroleum-based. and the manufacturing methods, tech, and equipments are all gone.. or kept secret by the Brotherhood.
 
Lone Cat said:
yep. Cellulose is a material that makes movie films, and capsules (Rad X. for example). but beside cellulose, gimme the lists of polymers that made of agro products. meow
You read me wrong. I'm not talking about using the cellulose as the end product, but as a reagent for making synthetic, non oil based polymers. It's being done right now, but mainly as a developing tech. I can get more info if you are interested, I know a few chemists who works on that subject.
 
yep given the fact of Combat Armor is polymer body armor, and giving the fact that plastic might saw significant developments by 2077. ,so please tell me more.
 
Well, please PM me so I remember to look for it in two weeks, right now I'm pretty busy with college. Also, next week I might have some other info, since I'm assisting to an introduction to synthetic biology course and polymers might be one of the subjects.
 
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