[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jul-23-01 AT 00:40AM (GMT)[p]>So, if you do something I
>don't like I could break
>your arm so you don't
>do it again?
Yup, especially if you're carrying a larger stick than I have.
You need to understand that your "freedoms" and "rights" are only granted to you because the United States government ALLOWS you to have them. People seem to be caught up in the notion that humans are somehow *entitled* to such "God-given rights" when the fact of the matter is that your **GOVERNMENT** is the ONLY entity that can and does ENFORCE those rights.
>Right, do
>the words "fascist methods" mean
>anything?
Fascist supress any method of "freedom of speech." Those police were bringing a bunch of *rioters* and *hooligans* to bay because they turned a *peaceful* demonstration into a violent riot that caused massive damage to cars, businesses, and people. No, I don't think that is fascism.
>I know that it's stupid to
>attack the police but as
>briosafreak said, when you're scared
>or angry you do stupid
>things and when the police
>harras you for no reason
>(I mean that, the police
>harras some people for absolutely
>NO reason) some people get
>mad and do stupid things.
No reason? How about being an unruly crowd and trying to get them out of the way so they didn't harm anything? I would not be surprised if these people went there to CAUSE a riot.
>I don't expect the cops to
>do nothing, but they shouldn't
>KILL people.
Humans are expendable, especially worthless rioters. Those people are a sore on the buttocks of society, wasting the time of people, damaging property, using up resources. Why don't these people get a JOB and a LIFE? If people in the USA and other "free" nations spent half the amount of time APPRECIATING what their governments do for them rather than bitch about laws and policies they don't like, this planet would be a much better place.
>OK the currebt
>program is called "Son of
>Star Wars" by Greenpeace, but
>it's still a idiotic thing.
Greenpeace is another one of those useless organizations that have no life. Those people seriously need to be oppressed, as they literally litter the world with their propaganda, and hold up industry.
If one of those Greenpeace boats tried to stop my TANKER from making it to my destination, I'd just run it over, or maybe start shooting those waste-of-time humans. Greenpeace members seriously need to get jobs.
>I don't know what the
>english word is but it
>will only lead to the
>situation that was during the
>60s and 70s. They have
>nukes, we must have nukes.
It is an entirely different situation. For one, there is no Soviet Union, the big communist powers are now very much open to trade and are for the most part, not hostile, and most importantly, we have lots of little nations that have one or two nukes, that for *some reason* don't like the western nations and might launch a nuke because they have nothing to lose.
Also, what makes you think that the nuclear weapons situation has changed with the bigger nations? Instead of the big bombs of the 60's and 70's we have MIRV nuclear missiles that carry up to twenty or more warheads in a single missile. Not to mention that there are tons of nuclear submarines with enough firepower to level every costal city in the United States. Do you think our interceptor fleet, that has failed about four out of five tests in Alaska will be able to combat that? They're not meant to block a full scale attack, but rather take out the few nuclear weapons that small nations with vendettas have.
>They have bigger nukes we
>must have bigger nukes, etc.
Wrong. The trend nowadays is to fit more nukes into a single missile. Our interceptors would not be able to stop a full-scale attack ANYWAY.
>That situation almost caused us
>the fallout scenario.
No, political tension due to two world powers with different agendas almost brought us that situation. The situation is different now.
>Nuclear War
>that destroys the whole world.
That will never happen.
>And I think it's pretty
>damn stupid to kill a
>person, specially if you are
>a cop.
Oh, and it makes it better if you're a civilian and you kill the cop? Would you cheer if those hooligans killed a cop?
>I wouldn't shoot him. i would
>say: Look, a police car.
>Throw it at it! 8Because
>I would probably be one
>of the peaceful protesters myself)
>If I were a police
>man, I would duck and
>then i would put handcuffs
>on him.
*Rolls eyes* You've just lost what little credibility you had.
>So, if someone is dangerous he
>should be killed?
If he is violent and could potentially seriously injure, if not kill a person, yes.
>Why don't
>we kill everyone with a
>gun as well?
Not all people with guns are violent. Violent people with guns should be killed.
>Including armed
>forces and police.
Nope, they're enforcing the law.
>Hell, let's
>kill everyone who ownes kitchen
>knives as well. Let's kill
>all the little kids who
>throws snowballs at each other
>as well.
You're becoming ridiculous now.
>A guy I
>know almost got blind because
>of a piece of sand
>in the snowball that hit
>him in the eye.
Was that snowball meant to kill that person? I don't think so.
>There
>is 80 firearms on every
>100 citizens in the USA.
>Doesn't that tell SOMETHING about
>the country?
It sure does, that we have too many rights here.
>Sweden have been occupied by other
>countries on some occations but
>we don't have laws that
>let us have military weapons
>"just in case the danish
>come back"
And that's good.
>Who gave the police the right
>to kill people unquestionable?
Unquestionably? That person they killed was violent and a hazard to everyone and everyone around him. He could've killed or seriously injured someone. He was attacking an officer when he was shot. It was self defense, and justified.
>If
>someone killed your friend (answer
>this one honestly) wouldn't you
>want SOME kind of revenge?
Depends on why they were killed. If he was killed innocently, say, as a bystander in a gunfight, yeah, but if he were killed doing something stupid like throwing stuff at police, I'd say he was killed because he was STUPID. I'd be more mad at him for being a DUMBASS, than the police who were defending themselves and everyone around them.
>>I think people who run from the law should be dealt with >harshly. In the case of O.J. Simpson running from police, I >would've given the order to have him shot in the car instead of >following him around in police cars like he was the president >or something.
>
>WHY? Just WHY?
It is an admission of guilt. I'd have them shot if they are being pursued, but if the person gives up they should be arrested. I seriously doubt people would take their chances running from the law if we weren't so lenient with people running from the law.
>Pamper, I can come and visit
>you with a baseball bat
>and I can show you
>what the police means with
>"pamper".
And for what reason? I haven't started VIOLENT RIOTS, or have thrown a FIRE EXTINGUISHER at a police officer. What you are describing is wrong because the beating done for NO REASON. These rioters were damaging buildings, burning cars, harming police officers and being a nuisance to society. They diserved the beating they took, as with all rioters. If they were having a perfectly peaceful demonstrations, yeah, it would be wrong, but these people were no better than thieves and hooligans.
>And I can bring
>a few hundred armed guys
>who can oppress you if
>you don't mind (you do?
>Ahh then we must beat
>the shit out of you.
>You still mind? well meet
>ol' sparky).
I'd sure as hell APPRECIATE what I've got here more than before. Those rioters should learn what it means to APPRECIATE what they have. Maybe THEY have some sense beaten into them.
>I've met people who were brutally
>beaten by policemen for helping
>a guy who was half
>dead AND wounded policemen.
I'm sure you'd do the same thing if you saw your friend get injured by a bunch of hooligans, only to see a friend of the hooligan try to assist him.
>Is
>that OK? And YES those
>people hadn't thrown a single
>bottle or stone.
But they were assisting people who DID.
-Xotor-
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