NPC Suggestions.

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I'm sure lots of people have said stuff like this, so leave me alone.

1. A Thief Character. Like from the Circle of Thieves. ( Good at stealing, lockpicking )

2. Ninja. Who doesn't want a ninja? ( Good at melee and hand-2-hand )

3. Creature. Like the dead aliens in that encounter. ( Good at Energy Weapons )

4. Another Scienctist, but not like Myron. (Should be able to design many things, like upgrading weapons )

5. Speaker. Ok this one is kind of weird. I think that he should be able to temporarily rise a skill such as Charisma or Intelligence, but suck at fighting. Maybe the creature would be a good fighter, but lower your Charisma, because you're traveling with something that ugly. So you have to think about what type of character you are in order to decide NPCs.
 
RE: A Ninja?

> Fallout is not based
>on an Anime.

a ninja could fit in with the san francisco way of life.
hang on, are they chinese or japanese?
if they're chinese it wouldn't.
if they're japanese it could
 
They're chinese

>> Fallout is not based
>>on an Anime.
>
>a ninja could fit in with
>the san francisco way of
>life.
>hang on, are they chinese or
>japanese?
>if they're chinese it wouldn't.
>if they're japanese it could

But since there are yakuza in FO2 a ninja NPC would be possible.
 
RE: They're chinese

Why not? I wonder where the yakuzas are from...
 
I thought Ninja were also in Japan

And samurai's in China, or am I mixing things up again?
 
RE: I thought Ninja were also in Japan

samurai are japanese if i'm not wrong
but lets face it :) 1 good shot & that is one dead ninja
 
Both ninja and samurai are japanese

>And samurai's in China, or am
>I mixing things up again?

Samurai were knights that lived by their code of honor. Ninja on the other hand didn't have a code. Often ninjas were rogue samurai.
 
RE: I thought Ninja were also in Japan

I'm fairly certain that the Japanese had the ninja's(assians), and samuri(knights), where as the Chinese monks pretty much invented martial arts. My only wish for Fallout 3 is that it follows the theme of "Post-Nuclear Apocolpytic World". And all that comes with that.
 
RE: I thought Ninja were also in Japan

The shaolin monks in Tibet(?) invented SOME martial arts but the more known ones like karate, judo, aikido and ju-jutsu are japanese.
 
RE: A Ninja?

ninjas did have one code that i know of.if a ninja pulled out his sword and was not going to kill someone it is dishonor and then they would commit sucide because they were dishonarable.and there were samurai's in china.
 
RE: A Ninja?

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>ninjas did have one code that
>i know of.if a ninja
>pulled out his sword and
>was not going to kill
>someone it is dishonor and
>then they would commit sucide
>because they were dishonarable.and there
>were samurai's in china.

You're wrong. Ninja (plural, no s) did not have a code. Samurai (japanese knights) did. Ninja were without honor and samurai lived by their code of honor. This code is called the bushido. If they dishonored theirselves they had to live in shame for the rest of their lives or commit suicide. This suicide ritual is called seppuku (not hara kiri like many people think). First the samurai would not eat a day before doing Seppuku. There needed to be a "Kaisyakunin" present who would cut of the samurai's head at the end of the procedure. This was the procedure:

1. The samurai sat in an erect position with legs folded under him. In front of him lies a Wakizashi (small japanese sword).

2. The samurai loosens his kimono and takes up the Wakizashi.

3. The samurai had to stub at the lower left corner of his abdomen. Then he had to slowly cut across to right corner, then to upper at the middle, swiftly slicing down to the bottom.

4. Now the Kaisyakunin had to cut of the samurai's head as quickly as possible.

The reason they had to cut open their abdomen (a very painful way to die) was because the japanese believed the human soul and spirit resided in the abdomen.

This concludes our japanese lesson. Let's leave it at this cause I'm getting too off-topic :-)
 
Damn straight you are.

How about the other NPC suggestions people? Anyone interested? In Fallout and Fallout2 you we so far had very limited control over our NPC's. Meaning, they all went their own way.
Now consider this; are you willing to risk your life and reputation in every town everytime your thief decides to 'go shopping'? That's kinda risky, you know? And I don't like the idea of having total control over your NPC's, then you'll get this 'god'situation, one mind controlling 4 persons.

A Speaker could be interesting, like vic automatically lends a hand at repairing (until a certain amount of skillpoints), the speaker could jump in in the middle of a conversation. That would however be most effective if you expand the dialog interface with directories and subdirectories like : talk to Friendly unit>Partymember>Name - talk to Neutral unit>Any person standing nearby - talk to Hostile unit(yes, that's possible)>Anyperson standing nearby. This way, during a conversation, you could you could ask one of your NPC's to explain things you can't. But you won't get the same menu, you won't be able to choose what they say. A scientist scientific stuff, a spy intelligence (info) and a Technician, well... guess. The role of the Speaker then would be able to speak to a crowd, convince a NPC to help or join you and stuff like that. But that would probably be to much trouble and the game shouldn't get to compicated, ergo...

As for the other suggestions, I simply forgot what they were, but, look at it this way, now others can share their intellect on those.
 
RE: A Ninja?

Ninja DID have their own code of honor. When a samurai commited Hara kiri it was on the battlefield if his shogun(kind of like a general) he used his wakizashi. If he commited Seppuku it was more of a ritual then a suicide like the Hara kiri the he used a small dagger the Tanto to cut open his stomach. Trust me that's the way they did it I've spoken to an expert and proffesor of japanese history.
 
RE: A Ninja?

Sir Medium Sized Jesus Mordino

I see you all liked my Ninja suggestion. :-)

For the record, it doesn't really matter whenther or not it was a Samurai or a Ninja or a friggin Emperor, I was actually just saying there should be some type of Slayer hand-to-hand person. Sulik was kind of like that, but he was more Melee. But thanx for the argument over my suggestion.
 
Hmmm....., anybody here that is actually Japanese or Chinese? Or did most of you just watched too much martial arts movie/anime?

For the record:

Most ninjas weren't assains, they were spies. A famous ninja during the Japanese warring period once said, "If all ninjas were such great assains, then there would be no need for armies.". Like the modern CIA, DIA, NSA, UPS, SEALs, and etc..., they were messengers, intelligence agents, information gathers, political analyist, black ops, red ops, thieves, talent searchers, and all other stuff that the above agenies do today. Most ninjas were hired for life by their warlords. Quite a few belong to clans. There are some modern Yakuzas clans claim to be ancient ninja clans. Contrary to pop culture beliefs, there is a "unofficial" code of honor for them. An untrustworthy spy is useless, and he/she will be hunt down bec. of what he/she knows. Ninja was one profession that women in ancient Japan has equal footing with men. A high percentage of famous Geishas in those days were ninjas/spies. Most warlords were depended on ninjas for information about other "countries". They were also used extensively in battles as messengers who carried orders, battle information gathers, and carriers of special tactics.(such as misinformation, or were implanted earlier to influence internal politics.)

I hope this gives you some basic idea about the real ninjas. For more info, look up translated historicial novels from Japanese warring periods.

Samurais were one thing and one thing only. They were professional soldiers. Most soldiers in ancient Japan were farmers who get drafted when needed. It usually happen during non-farming seasons. Professional soldiers were needed when there was a war going on, but most regular foot soldier were busy harvest crops for supplies. Like India, Japan had a similar caste system where monks and samuris were at the top. Most samurais were paid by a food and a very low base salary. Their bonus were paid based on the heads they cut off their enemies. The higher the rank of the head, the better the bonus. Contrary to popular belief, a lot of lower rank samurais don't follow the code of Bushido. They were often loafers who didn't want to work at the family farm. So they "joined" the local armies for free food, drinks, and women when there is war. A lot don't have loyalities and only work for the highest bidder. Similar to the western knights, they were overly glamorized by popular fiction, and movies. Most of the honorable samurais came from good families where they received good training and education. They were often sons of priests, warlords, and local barons(whom owned the land). These are the people who were required and taught to follow the doctorine of the Bushido. A high percentage of high ranking samurais don't fight on battlefield. They work as advisors, cabinet ministers, administrators, and etc..., because only them had the education to do so. They basically run things as your local civil servants and polticians would today. The only difference is that they weren't elected. A low ranking samurai would only get promoted to higher status if he has shown extraordinary talent, skills, honor, and intelligence, plus making a significant contribution to the battles. Only then he'll be rewarded with land, gold, and hand in marriage with a daughter of a higher ranking samurai. A lot of warlords run their countries like the modern mafia. Most of the ruling class were related in one way or another. Since family is the Japanese heart and soul, and you can't betray your family; this was a great way to gain loyality.

Anyway, I think that's enough to get you going, if you are interested to know more, either look them up yourself, or e-mail me.

BTW, Japanese came from China. Most of the Japanese languages, art and culture were brought to Japan by scholars and priests who went to China to study in Chinese unversities.

Most Japanese martial arts were developed by Japanese who went to China to study the arts of war, and then adopting them to suit their needs.

Just for the record. :D:D:D

Starseeker, signing off.

"The final price of freedom, is the willingness to face the most frightening being of all, one's own self."
 
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