NPC wont LVL up...

TJHooker

First time out of the vault
this happens to Vic, Sulik, Dogmeat and Gorris they dont reach their maximum stage for some weird reason...for example Vic on maximum level should have 130+ Hp, 12 AP , and 135 % - Small Guns and 145 % Energy Weapons skills...but he dont want to gain 6-th stage, so i stuck at 5th...please help someone i'm running 1.03Y Final patch version of the game with some bug fixes and updates, such as russification of the text adepted exclusively for Fargus version of the game...i've just given an info in case it is needed to solve my problem...
 
Congratulations. You have encountered one of the well known engine-level bugs. No solution has been reported till far.
And btw it's not likely that someone here is using Yikxx's mod.
 
ok...which version is not buggy and would let those npcs to level up further ? ...oh and by the way is there anyone alive here at this forums beside you , hehe :P
 
Nothing strange. Since all russian versions except for the one have engine version 1.02d. And I'm pretty sure that bug presents in ALL versions of the game.

is there anyone alive here at this forums beside you
Let's say, it's just not a season. Anyway most of the local residents are just not playing russian Fallout to help you with it. :wink:

P.S. And you'd better use
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button instead of doubleposting, before moderators asked you to do so.
 
...well it'd seem kinda strange, but when i click EDIT button it's just double posts instead of editing :mrgreen: ...a bug ?
...well it is kinda offtopic, but i found another weird glitch, when i take my car to Broken Hills, it is just dissappears, like there was no car at all, but those npc, who's fallen on the ground is there, and i can speak to him and all, but after that i cannot pick my car anymore, WTH ? :?
...oh and i finally found out how to edit my post instead of double posting, the reason why i was double posting is that i clicked on quote instead of edit.... :mrgreen:
 
That's a script-level bug. The most annoying one in the whole game. You have three options.

1. Load from the saved game BEFORE you entered BH and try to reach that setllement once more. If it's a random bug it could disappear.
2. If bug won't disapper, you colud try to upgrade to the latest version of modpack you're using. Grab it at http://travel.ag.ru/fallout. And in this case you still have to load a save BEFORE the bug.
3. The last option, if you still want to finish game without switching to another modpack, is to just leave your car somweher else and make you way to BH on yer feet. And of course you still have to load a save when the car were still with you. :)

I'd personnaly suggested to drop Yikxx's compote and change to latest Killap's patch adaptation to russian. But it means that you'll have to begin a new game though.
 
Really, all the NPCs can't reach their last stage? Isn't this fixed by adding additional stage they never reach (so Vic will have 7 stages and will be stuck at the 6th, kinda like it's supposed to)?

Well, I am going to test this (won't have the results soon) with Skynet, Vic, Sulik, Marcus and Cassidy.
 
nah nevermind i'm playing russian version of the MIB88 Megamod 2.34 now, but the problem was there too, but after i downloaded special script patch called NPC 6 patch or something...problem solved, i got that from Wastleland chronicles modding source...if you interested you can go there and download those patch...patch applied only for those of NPC, who never reached their 5th (yet maximum) level...
 
whats the sites name hooker?looked around yahoo a little,didnt see it.that bug has bothered me for ages,would be cool for party members to have 15 or levels

found the site but i cant read russian,whats the name of the script?

never mind,luck pointed me to it,seems all you have to do is double the last level up pid
 
http://wasteland.ag.ru/fallout-2/patches/ - this is russian modding site, so everything there is in russian, except the name of the files...but i guess it wouldnt be a big problem though... :wink:

...Fallout 2 NPC 6 levels patch - this is those patch, i was talking about...click on СКАЧАТЬ word and you'll be fine :)
 
just tested this,i was all exzcited for nothing,all he did in the mod(that is only party.txt btw) is put stage 6 pid number in stage 5 in party.txt. boo
 
...i made it much better, i just hacked all of my followers .pro's with FUCK! tool... for example, i opened Marcus 00000333.pro files with FUCK! and edited everything as i wanted (health, aps, all atribs etc...) and saved...hehe and when Marcus reached those level 9 that i edited, he suddenly had all those changes, i made to his .pro file hehe...but to get this to work, you must edit latest stage of your follower before he reaches it...for example Marcus latest stage is 5th as far as i remember, so to make this thing to work, he must be 4th level by the moment you'd start editing his 5th level .pro file...

http://www.fanmadefallout.com/procrit/ - here you can find all .pro critters (for original game only, those first 483 ones)...there are no info as of other 117 after 483 .pro critters...

http://www.fanmadefallout.com/fo2-items/ - here you can find all .pro items (for original game too) ...those ones that comes with the MIB88 Megamod or any other mod, that have completely new, never seen before .pro files are all unlisted here...

...thats it simple as that...Items .pro files opens with F2Wedit tool,
...while Critters .pro files are opened with FUCK! tool ...hehe :mrgreen:
 
It is not better. It's the same as Mirny aka Go2man did. The real problem is not in the stats. The problem is in the engine which just skips the last level specified for the follower. Making that level technically unreachable.
 
Alchemist said:
It is not better. It's the same as Mirny aka Go2man did. The real problem is not in the stats. The problem is in the engine which just skips the last level specified for the follower. Making that level technically unreachable.

...correction : UNREACHABLE is the only term would be right to use in this situation, how could you suppose to skip something, that is last ? ...se what i mean...other words you can NEVER REACH it, but you cant SKIP it :P :mrgreen:

...i already knew that, my score was to show another way (and better way in terms of freedom of choosing) of editing your followers stats, making them almost invincible hehe :mrgreen: ...that was actually my point...and it is much better, then just to edit existing party.txt file, as you free to change on whatever you want, turning your follower into unstoppable buldozer hehe :mrgreen:
 
I cleary wrote: engine skips. Omits, igonres whatever. It was not about player or NPC. So, let's not compete in the English skill here.

I'm happy that you are so proud of your success in the cheating business. But your way has nothing to do with attempts to fix the bug mentioned in the topic title.
 
...thats right buddy, but i wasnt reffering to my topic title at all...that conversation is meant to be...well a bit offtopic you know hehe :mrgreen:
 
Not exactly. We could use the same method to improve the NPC stats at the last reachable level to be like the last intended level, but that's not a perfect solution, because it's like your NPC levels double at its last level. However, this could be balanced by reducing slightly stats.

Or you could skip one of the times your NPC should level (the time it should level for the last time) - I think leveling while the NPC is outside your party should work. This, however makes your game slightly harder. Anyway, I would prefer this way.

Or you could just make your NPC uber :D

P.S. I think it should be a challenge to have NPC with much higher health and no armor - imagine healing a 300-400 (playing will help you balance the numbers) Marcus after a battle with something with burst fire available...
 
well what can i say...everyone on their own here...the only things i'm interested is my followers Hps, Aps, and finally give them good resistances, so Marcus wouldnt be blown in 2-3 critical shots finally, which was hell a lot of frustrating before :mrgreen: ...even though he wears those armor that Professor makes especially for Super Mutants...also that gives you more reason to give my followers Vindicator Minigun, so those Folowers that Melee attacks wouldnt be harmed...or atleast got less harmed from other follower's Vindicator... :mrgreen: ...
 
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