Ok, this is probably going to be opposed quite viciously but

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In reference to the possibility of a fallout 3......I have one idea which could change the face of the gaming world and make the fallout series even more of a legend than at present.
Point: look at the remarkable success of Half-Life, two years since it's release, and it still recieves game of the year awards. Ok then, how about a half life type game, but with a fallout storyline......Wait, save your abuse. I do not mean to merely make a half-life clone, but to give serious consideration to making fallout 3 follow a similar path. Think about it before you criticize me for trying to make fallout fps. Any of you out there who have ever played half-life, will agree with me that it is not, by any means a straight fps it involves much more than mere shooting and running. However, this could be drawn even further away from fps, using the fallout RPG content.
Another point, what made half-life so successful?
The engrossing plot, that's what.
But just imagine the sheer extent of the depth and atmosphere that could be portrayed on the same platform using a fallout storyline, take either fallout1, fallout2 or a completely new fallout (3?) concept (but not straying from the roots of the fallout history and what do you have, a ground-breaking, land-marking and all round lengend of a title. Think of the success of half-life, and realise that with a fallout storyline, that could have been THE game....period! It still could be.......
And now for the developers: you are doing something you enjoy yes? who wouldn't enjoy making computer games? I know I sure as hell would! Think of the revenues of such a title, you're doing something you enjoy, and getting rich from it at the same time........we're talking awards and celebrity life here!


And now, I am prepared to observe the backlash of this post..........If asked (challenged), I will go into detail on certain aspects of what this idea may entail, and how it would NOT be a half-life clone.
 
RE: Ok, this is probably going to be opposed quite viciously

I've played halflife, and I still viciously oppose your idea:P
if this were the original board you'd have been banned for the suggestion, but I'll take it more openmindedly:P

eherm............. fallout first of all, is meant to run in the fallout engine, and I dont see any other game engine that could properly support such gameplay and storyline and whatever.

When I first played Fallout, it gave me feelings
feelings of nostalgia, as the post apocolypse idea is nothing new, but at the same time, It felt like I was re-discovering a post nuclear world... ofcourse then fallout 2 didnt fulfil that,

besides, they could easily mod half-life to do so,

and besides:P I dont know how to mod half-life type games
so I cant get my Gauss Little Jesus Knife:P
 
RE: Ok, this is probably going to be opposed quite viciously

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you are missing the point, I am not referring to the engine, I am merely referring to the style of the game, the way the plot is portrayed, the atmosphere etc.......I am in no way suggesting they use the half-life engine and there is already talk of using a new engine anyway, so I think your point about them using the old one is void......and with reference to your other point about the original engine being the only one to support such a game, I'm sorry but I think that is wrong. If they set their minds to it, they could make any type engine to support the fallout universe! and finally, I think getting banned from a suggestions board for making suggestions is a pretty sorry state of affairs.............
 
Calm down dude.

Your being a little irrational

besides, whats the point of having fallout if its gonna have a non-original atmosphere

I beleive you did say something about using an FPS engine for fallout,
and their plans for a new engine for fallout would be a 3d engine, which would be similar to the 2d one for gameplay, and that Is what I meant that it is meant for that, otherwise it loses the atmosphere we all love.
 
RE: Calm down dude.

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-00 AT 10:32PM (GMT)[p]I'm calm, I just think that it ought to be considered more thoroughly......and not specifically fps, it could be third person or anything.......sorry to sound irrational....didn't intend to ;) I think in the original message I put a little too much emphasis on fps, I'm not saying that is the be all and end all, I'm just saying it's a possibility.....
However, I would like to know in what way I am being irrational.....
 
I've thought about it, and it's still idiotic.

We've had long discussions about this before and the conclusion is that it would suck. A FPS has no place with Fallout.

A FPS game would make the game into real-time, which is not what a real RPG does. Instead you get Quake with stats. Instead of depending on your character's skills and experience you depend on how fast you can flick that mouse or if you've mastered straffing correctly. THAT is not RPG.

RPGs depend on the skills of the character and the skill of the player to make decisions for the character, essentially you tell, they do.

What you want is a Quake game in the motif of Fallout, not Fallout. Go play WHL.

-Xotor-

>In reference to the possibility of
>a fallout 3......I have one
>idea which could change the
>face of the gaming world
>and make the fallout series
>even more of a legend
>than at present.
>Point: look at the remarkable success
>of Half-Life, two years since
>it's release, and it still
>recieves game of the year
>awards. Ok then, how about
>a half life type game,
>but with a fallout storyline......Wait,
>save your abuse. I do
>not mean to merely make
>a half-life clone, but to
>give serious consideration to making
>fallout 3 follow a similar
>path. Think about it before
>you criticize me for trying
>to make fallout fps. Any
>of you out there who
>have ever played half-life, will
>agree with me that it
>is not, by any means
>a straight fps it involves
>much more than mere shooting
>and running. However, this could
>be drawn even further away
>from fps, using the fallout
>RPG content.
>Another point, what made half-life so
>successful?
>The engrossing plot, that's what.
>But just imagine the sheer extent
>of the depth and atmosphere
>that could be portrayed on
>the same platform using a
>fallout storyline, take either fallout1,
>fallout2 or a completely new
>fallout (3?) concept (but not
>straying from the roots of
>the fallout history and what
>do you have, a ground-breaking,
>land-marking and all round lengend
>of a title. Think of
>the success of half-life, and
>realise that with a fallout
>storyline, that could have been
>THE game....period! It still could
>be.......
>And now for the developers: you
>are doing something you enjoy
>yes? who wouldn't enjoy making
>computer games? I know I
>sure as hell would! Think
>of the revenues of such
>a title, you're doing something
>you enjoy, and getting rich
>from it at the same
>time........we're talking awards and celebrity
>life here!
>
>
>And now, I am prepared to
>observe the backlash of
>this post..........If asked (challenged), I
>will go into detail on
>certain aspects of what this
>idea may entail, and how
>it would NOT be a
>half-life clone.


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RE: Calm down dude.

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>AT 10:32 PM (GMT)
>
>I'm calm, I just think that
>it ought to be considered
>more thoroughly......and not specifically fps,
>it could be third person
>or anything.......sorry to sound irrational....didn't
>intend to ;) I think
>in the original message I
>put a little too much
>emphasis on fps, I'm not
>saying that is the be
>all and end all, I'm
>just saying it's a possibility.....
>
>However, I would like to know
>in what way I am
>being irrational.....


Are you done contradicting yourself already?


How do you suppose to have a 3rd-person Fallout sequel akin to Half-Life? In fact, Fallout has a better plot depth than Half-Life.

Your mental ambiguity is starting to really show here.

Fallout cannot be done System Shock 2 style, as the skills and stats would not fit in. It's still more a FPS in that aspect. Which Fallout is a return to Classic RPGs.

Now, to completely thrash the fuck out of your STUPID idea:

Do you have a fucking clue as to why Fallout was made?
Do you have a fucking clue as to what Fallout IS?
Do you have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about aside from verbally masturbating about a pipe-dream?

BIS makes only RPG games. Good, Classic-style RPG games.

Why are you suggesting it be more like Half-Life, when the only key point of Half-Life is being a FPS? Fallout has an immersive plot, and so does Fo2 to a point. Half-Life doesn't compare, really, as far as plot is concerned. Or perhaps you were intimidated by the RPG quality of Fallout and went the "kill-fetch-retrieve" way that many weaned on Diablo do?

I suggest you learn a bit about the game and why it was made before proving yourself to be clinically dead from the neck up.


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Oh yeah..

>"I want falout 3 to be
>a realtime rpg/fps hybrid, because
>it's my mission to change
>Fallout."
>
>I think his name was Advocate,
>and tragically I think he
>is still alive and breathing
>to this day.

Oh yeah.. that guy with a giant zit on his neck that would *somehow* form ideas? I remember that guy.

"I want it because it is different." Pathetic.

-Xotor-

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RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable? (nt)

yep, ok, I expected this close-minded a response.........but hey, if you can't understand simple english then I think it is lost one you.....such a tragedy
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable? (nt)

>yep, ok, I expected this close-minded
>a response.........but hey, if you
>can't understand simple english then
>I think it is lost
>one you.....such a tragedy


As one of my friends said, why must you insist with fucking around with a game, and change it to something you really crave?

Why must you insist with fucking around with Fallout, and turning it into something that it was not meant to be. Want a shooter, go play doom. Want a fucking online MMORPG, go play UO.

Fallout is a good game, and is champion of the return to the Classic RPG genre.

I am sorry you are too stupid to understand that.
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable?

I am not too stupid to understand that, you're gad damn right, fallout is the BEST rpg there is, full stop, I am not "fucking" around with anything, it was merely a suggestion.......maybe I was drunk...I dunno....
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable? (nt)

>yep, ok, I expected this close-minded
>a response.........but hey, if you
>can't understand simple english then
>I think it is lost
>one you.....such a tragedy

It has nothing to do with your command (or lack thereof) of the English language, but more to point out how idiotic an ideas it is.

Stamp "Online" to an RPG and you don't have an RPG, you have a piece of shit.

-Xotor-

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RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable?

>I am not too stupid to
>understand that, you're gad damn
>right, fallout is the BEST
>rpg there is, full stop,
>I am not "fucking" around
>with anything, it was merely
>a suggestion.......maybe I was drunk...I
>dunno....

You were obviously SOMETHING.

Hey, fuck it, why not make it into a racer?
Every other brain-dead sugestion has been made....
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable?

Hey, go do another post like this. I might not agree with all of what rosh and xotor say, but I sure enjoy watching them tear your opinion to shreds! It's things like this that keep this board interesting! But I do agree with them on this. I did love Half-Life, and System Shock 2, but Fallout is practically incompatible with the fps.
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable? (nt)

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jun-16-00 AT 09:52PM (GMT)[p]Ok, I see your point, and don't really care anymore, it is just a shame you have to go about disproving me in such a immature way......there is no need for obscenities.....lack of command of the english language, point me out one swearword I have used....exactly, none, and before you start, the only one used was as a quotation! I can make my point without resorting to slander and the like........I'm sorry, but I am with you 100% about fallout, but the way you make yourselves heard is apalling quite frankly......how can you expect to be taken seriously as adults using such language?
and one more thing.....why must you shout me down in such fashion? why could you not have used more diplomatic methods...such as, "no" or "probably not" rather than aiming to offend me with profanity?
 
Look

You'd be better of to just leave the subject be because I am 100% sure you're not going to change Xotor's or Rosh's minds in the slightest. If I were you, I'd just leave them be to their own opinions, unless you want to enjoy some more of their "constructive crtitism". Feel free to have your own opinion, but know when further debate is pointless. A good debater knows when to quit.
 
RE: Moronic? Lame? Brain dead? Unforgivable? (nt)

>Ok, I see your point, and
>don't really care anymore, it
>is just a shame you
>have to go about disproving
>me in such a immature
>way......

Ok, we can play nice-nice.
Please don't cry, you might hurt my feelings....*snicker, snicker*

>there is no need for
>obscenities.....lack of command of the
>english language, point me out
>one swearword I have used....exactly,
>none, and before you start,
>the only one used was
>as a quotation!

Oh, big you.... Last I knew Fallout was a Mature rated game, and the only 'swearword' restrictions we have are a gneral guideline about those in subject lines. On a more personal note, I was in the Navy for over three years, and it gets pretty ingrained.
So if you don't like profanities...

#1: Why would you play Fallout?
#2: Tough shit.

>I can
>make my point without resorting
>to slander and the like........

WHOA! Back the fucking truck up here, boy.
I suggest you get a REALLY quick knowledge of what 'slander' means before you start making those accusations, else your time here is endangered.

>I'm
>sorry, but I am with
>you 100% about fallout, but
>the way you make yourselves
>heard is apalling quite frankly......

Then why do you make such suggestions that have in the past caused such a rukus? FPS/RPG Hybrid and FOOL? Looks like someone's trolling for flames, especially noting your name.

That's it, get ready for a 403 Error.
FORBIDDEN.

>how
>can you expect to be
>taken seriously as adults using
>such language?

How can you be taken so seriously with ideas you haven't put any obvious thought behind? Or purposely posted on topics that have been taboo on most boards.

>and one more thing.....why must you
>shout me down in such
>fashion? why could you not
>have used more diplomatic methods...such
>as, "no" or "probably not"
>rather than aiming to offend
>me with profanity?

Life sucks, there's no such thing as justice in this world, and you are not getting any sympathy.

See above for a good reason why. At one point, you were pathetically amusing with your naive candor. But lately, all that your mouth proffers is starting to set a record for the most corpulent eruption in the history of terminal oral and cerebral flatulence.
 
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