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One way to actually kill the children

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by banshee911, Nov 4, 2008.

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  1. banshee911

    banshee911 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 24, 2008
    Change two lines in your fallout.ini file to

    bForceReloadOnEssentialCharacterDeath=0
    bEssentialTakeNoDamage=0

    Then target the children and type in console "Agerace 1"

    This will make them teenagers.
     
    banshee911, Nov 4, 2008
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  2. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Orderite

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    Dec 10, 2003
    Does it change their appearance?

    EDIT: Checked, NVM
     
    Tagaziel, Nov 4, 2008
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  3. pinkbits

    pinkbits First time out of the vault

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    Nov 1, 2008
    well does it?
     
    pinkbits, Nov 4, 2008
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  4. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Orderite

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    Dec 10, 2003
    Yes. There's no fun in killing teenagers :<
     
    Tagaziel, Nov 4, 2008
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  5. Black

    Black Vault Senior Citizen

    1,230
    Jun 21, 2007
    Besides, what's the point if you don't get the child killer reputation, don't have bounty hunters on your ass and people don't dislike you?
     
    Black, Nov 4, 2008
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  6. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Orderite

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    Dec 10, 2003
    Just so you can slaughter the entire Lamplight and drop kick their heads around.
     
    Tagaziel, Nov 4, 2008
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  7. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    10,999
    Dec 5, 2003
    So can you turn children into super mutants, too?
     
    Buxbaum666, Nov 4, 2008
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  8. frosty_theaussie

    frosty_theaussie Still Mildly Glowing

    270
    Nov 22, 2003
    Can you age them into teens, kill them, then age them back to children postmortem? Hey, it'd be a workaround.
     
    frosty_theaussie, Nov 4, 2008
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  9. banshee911

    banshee911 First time out of the vault

    33
    Sep 24, 2008
    Apparently once they are dead they no longer have a race and are only ragdolls until revived... so no
     
    banshee911, Nov 4, 2008
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  10. banshee911

    banshee911 First time out of the vault

    33
    Sep 24, 2008
    But basically this says there's some flag in the race characteristics that makes them not take damage. If someone would tell me where race characteristics are stored in Oblivion I'd be happy to figure it out.
     
    banshee911, Nov 4, 2008
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  11. Culturecide

    Culturecide First time out of the vault

    16
    Oct 22, 2008
    I'm with black,

    even if you can kill them, there's no ramifications... in Fallout 2, killing children meant having people open fire on you, getting a Child Killer perk, and dropping your karma drastically... and having bounties on your head is cool.
     
    Culturecide, Nov 4, 2008
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  12. causticbeat

    causticbeat First time out of the vault

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    Nov 1, 2008
    sacra

    киподе налеби
    баподе наледи
    донита бадосе
     
    causticbeat, Nov 4, 2008
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  13. Erny

    Erny It Wandered In From the Wastes

    179
    Nov 2, 2008
    yeah

    this unkillable NPC/kids bullshit needs a real mod, ini change is not much use

    wouldnt it be much more moral-correct if you COULD kill the children, but would face a mighty penulty and everyone would hate you?
    another missed feature

    dumb bethesda :(
     
    Erny, Nov 4, 2008
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  14. tekhedd

    tekhedd Hoarding ammo IS gameplay

    213
    Oct 28, 2008
    So, the workaround is simple:

    * edit the ini file
    * use console commands to turn child into teenager
    * kill child, possibly by accident during a firefight or something, possibly out of rage or insanity, depending on your character...
    * Locate corpse. Use console commands to convert dead child back into child
    * use console commands to adjust personal karma as appropriate
    * (advanced) use console commands to turn local townspeople hostile

    It's worth the trouble to help ensure a truly immersive gameplay experience. :D
     
    tekhedd, Nov 4, 2008
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  15. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    2,337
    Jul 9, 2004
    I'd like to see a Baby Back Ribs achievement for cannibalizing a kid.
     
    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude, Nov 4, 2008
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  16. TheFlyingBuddha

    TheFlyingBuddha It Wandered In From the Wastes

    109
    Oct 29, 2008
    It was already established above that it doesn't work on corpses.
     
    TheFlyingBuddha, Nov 4, 2008
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  17. marstonkyale

    marstonkyale First time out of the vault

    53
    Oct 22, 2008
    HAA! thanks for a good laugh Phil.

    Btw what are the achievements? I refuse to activate my pc copy.
     
    marstonkyale, Nov 5, 2008
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  18. Skynet 2.0

    Skynet 2.0 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    109
    Sep 10, 2008
    It would be better to make a mod that does this for you, but it's better than nothing. At least now I can finally take out Lamplight.
     
    Skynet 2.0, Nov 5, 2008
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  19. aenemic

    aenemic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

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    Jun 4, 2008
    it frightens me to what lengths people are willing to go to kill children in a game.
     
    aenemic, Nov 5, 2008
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  20. Wreckless

    Wreckless First time out of the vault

    11
    Nov 3, 2008
    No worse than killing hundreds of other people throughout the game, really.
    Fallout 1 and 2 gave you not just the option to kill children, but all the repercussions of doing so - hence the desire for a negative perk, lots of mercenaries and bounty hunters after your ass, as well as having most local towns get *very* angry with you. This is part of being an immersive RPG - it's supposed to let you be either a good guy, or a bad guy...
     
    Wreckless, Nov 5, 2008
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