Phantasy Star 3

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I became bored so I decided to try playing the Sega Genesis game "Phantasy Star 3" on my Genecyst emulator.

BOY DOES THAT "RPG" SUCK.

This is basically the game:

- Run around in mazes.
- Upgrade your weapons.
- Randomly encounter enemies every 15 tiles.
- Create a fork in the "storyline" with each marraige.

And that's it.

The storyline, if you can call it that, is pathetic. Here's some lines that give you an impression of how FLAT the storyline is:

"Oh you rescued me, now I will join your team."
"SOMENAME bids farewell to his daughter and dies."
"Let's see how you fight, on guard."

One of the most annoying parts of the game is that there are enemies every fifteen tiles or so, or even less sometimes. Didn't Final Fantasy have the same thing you may ask? Well at least Final Fantasy doesn't make you wander through lengthy mazes to get to the destination. Without those damned mazes the game would probably only take 2 hours to beat! It's unbearable.

If there's a maze in a game it means that the game designers had nothing BETTER to put into the game (ex: The Fallout 2 puzzleroom on the oil dereck).

How the HELL did Phantasy Star have THREE sequels?

Some other irritating points:

- Very unintuitive menu system. Great effort is needed to get things the way you want it.

- The Inventory isn't collective, so you have to open up each character's inventory to move around/use items. Items take up a slot each even if there's more than one of the same item, so you have to drop items to free up a slot.

- Towns, whether they hate you or like you will always have shops open for service. Somehow all the shopkeepers are cloned because even in CYBORG towns the shop keepers have the same human faces. You cannot buy more than one item at a time and to buy additional items you have to go through the entire item selection sequece.

- Except for the first planet, you only get to see a rough sketch of the world map, therefore you can easily forget where towns are.

- Battles are way too slow, especially for the number of them. You'll be hitting 'C' repeatedly to try to make it go faster, which it will not do.

- Spells have four to five letter titles with no description. What the hell does "Foi" mean?

- No environment interaction. The only interaction you ever have is with people and chest. You can't open doors, you can't trigger traps, you can't push things, nothing.

- Useless scenery. Yeah, it's nice to draw extra buildings, but unless you have something I can steal or someone I can talk to, why ever add it? Every building has an upstairs which has nothing but useless scenery.

- Monsters in locations where they shouldn't be. Why do I trigger a random monster only inches away from a defenseless person standing around in a cave? Why are there monsters in the cave at all if this is supposed to be a shelter?

- Same music all the time. Battles have the same music all the time and there isn't much variance in the music in the world or dungeons. The Genesis really doesn't have much to go on in the way of graphics, so why not make better music, or more? I've identified about four or five music tracks TOTAL. Remember in Final Fantasy hearing the "sad song" which really brought out the mood? I guess the music here fits because there *is no* mood in this game. I don't think I'll be looking for the OST.

- Boring characters. They're nothing more than a face and a name. The characters in PS3 are as flat in character as they are on the screen. They don't give advice, they don't talk aside from their inital intros, and they don't even have any real outside abilities. The only characteristic you'll actually pay attention to is their fighting ability because they don't have anything more to them. It doesn't matter if they're male or female, or cyborg or human because I've seen lawn chairs with more character to them.

Maybe PS4 is better, but so far, I'm really turned off by PS3. I would not suggest playing it if you've played better RPGs like Fallout, or even FF8 (now THAT's saying something pathetic about the game). If Chrono Trigger is the epitomy of console RPGs, PS3, or just the PS series, is the worst.

-Xotor-

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Try: Star Control II; it has the best storyline I've ever seen in any RPG.

And btw I hate those damned translator people who mispell en garde in games/movies/closed captions... argh... well, maybe PS was better when it came out? I mean, everything was high-tech once...
 
Try: Star Control II; it has the best storyline I've ever seen in any RPG.

And btw I hate those damned translator people who mispell en garde in games/movies/closed captions... argh... well, maybe PS was better when it came out? I mean, everything was high-tech once...
 
Well, I agree on most points in your post. The Phantasy Star universe currently has 6 games: Phantasy Star Gaiden (saw it on a rom site, its in Japanese and it sucks), Phantasy Star 1 (this one was for the master system, I never played it but some people told me that I didn't miss anything), Phantasy Star 2 (good game, mild story (I thought it rocked when I was 10 but now I see its cliché, the characters have some characterization (pardon the pun if any)), Phantasy Star 3 (WTF did they make THIS for???!!!, you pretty much covered all the flaws of the game), Phantasy Star 4: End of the Millenium (Best PS game I have played so far, characterization is very good for a genesis game, pretty good music, even some drama elements in the fray) and Phantasy Star Online for the Dreamcast which I haven't played and has dissapointed many gamers. About the game's magic or techs or whatever, if you didn't play the first one (I looked at a walkthrough), you won't recognize any spells at all. On another matter Xotor, tell me something. Did you play Chrono Cross? Do you think (as I do) that they should make a Chrono Trigger 2? What they did was outrageous, they ditched every lovable character of CT and crammed 44 "heros" (yes I read the thread about real heros) with as much characterization as a slab of meat.
 
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Apr-22-01 AT 09:36AM (GMT)[p]>Did you
>play Chrono Cross? Do
>you think (as I do)
>that they should make a
>Chrono Trigger 2? What
>they did was outrageous, they
>ditched every lovable character of
>CT and crammed 44 "heros"
>(yes I read the thread
>about real heros) with as
>much characterization as a slab
>of meat.

I have both, and without doubt, Chrono Trigger is the better of the two. CT was creative and was so unique, plus it had a recognizable flavor to it.

CC came across as a sleazy hack between FF8 and Plan 9 From Outer Space. It was stupid. It was pointless. It sucked ass. It was a Feargus-style name-dropping.

And people wonder why ROMs are so popular. Biggest three are Seiken Densetsu 3 (Secret of Mana 3), FFV in English, and then Chrono Trigger. I would list those three as the epitome of console gaming, and the rest is a pox.

Final Fantasy 7 destroyed console gaming, becoming the Myst for consoles. For those not aware of it, before the utter vapid eye-candy piece of shit called Myst, there was actual games. Graphics didn't matter, nor were too great of a concern; the game was great, so there wasn't a problems at all, right? Nah, not good enough for the new steps in Better Eye Candy For Those Who Moo, they have to make it all glitzy and then the vapid kids are coming out of something that sounds like The Monkey's Paw. They still haven't learned that if the game looks good, and is shit, then their attention will only be on it for a little while, until they move onto the Next Shiny Thing. If a game actually has...a GAME, then they will replay it and such.

Notice how FFVII is now considered dead a buried, because in essence it has a vapid and drying up audience? It didn't have anything that made the other games in the series great like in FFV and FFVI, all it had was eye-candy. FFVIII was even worse, considering the Power Rangers element to it.

And yet the Fallout fan-base is strong, no thanks to the attempts of FOT to kill or pervert it. The Wasteland fan-base is still there, and that game is still getting played for over a decade, because it was a good game.

And the graphics sucked, comparatively.

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>Well, I agree on most points
>in your post. The
>Phantasy Star universe currently has
>6 games: Phantasy Star
>Gaiden (saw it on a
>rom site, its in Japanese
>and it sucks), Phantasy Star
>1 (this one was for
>the master system, I never
>played it but some people
>told me that I didn't
>miss anything), Phantasy Star 2
>(good game, mild story (I
>thought it rocked when I
>was 10 but now I
>see its cliché, the characters
>have some characterization (pardon the
>pun if any)), Phantasy Star
>3 (WTF did they make
>THIS for???!!!, you pretty much
>covered all the flaws of
>the game), Phantasy Star 4:
>End of the Millenium (Best
>PS game I have played
>so far, characterization is very
>good for a genesis game,
>pretty good music, even some
>drama elements in the fray)
>and Phantasy Star Online for
>the Dreamcast which I haven't
>played and has dissapointed many
>gamers. About the game's
>magic or techs or whatever,
>if you didn't play the
>first one (I looked at
>a walkthrough), you won't recognize
>any spells at all.
>On another matter Xotor, tell
>me something. Did you
>play Chrono Cross? Do
>you think (as I do)
>that they should make a
>Chrono Trigger 2? What
>they did was outrageous, they
>ditched every lovable character of
>CT and crammed 44 "heros"
>(yes I read the thread
>about real heros) with as
>much characterization as a slab
>of meat.

I haven't touched a Squaresoft game after the ones made for the SNES. I tried playing FFVII just to see what it was like, but after it froze the first time trying to play it I said forget it and deleted the game off my system. Then I was at a friend's house where he was playing FFVIII and boy, talk about a pre-planned game, no choice at all, and cinematics just thrown in everwhere. It wasn't my kind of "gameplay."

That's why I've been looking for some good ROMs for the SNES. I've played all the major ones, and I find the play experience even better on a computer than a console where I can hear the music on my stereo speakers instead of a TV speaker and speed up sequences I've already seen.

I wish there was another Chrono Trigger, but only on the SNES, not the more advanced systems. I like the classic gaming of the SNES, the music, and the fact that the programmers had to squeeze every last bit out of the engine to achieve the effects.

On the note of squeezing every last bit out of a system, if you want to see probably the latest-generation game for the Genesis, you should take a look at Ranger X. It is only playable on the emulator, KGen98, and it really pushes the limits of the Genesis without extra hardware, etc.

-Xotor-

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RE: Agreed Gentlemen

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON May-24-01 AT 09:02PM (GMT)[p]Now that you mention the longing for a CT2 for the SNES...I recall a little page I stumbled across when I was looking for hentai (oops! forget aobut that :) )whose project was...creating a CT2 for the pc using the CT original engine. I was highly excited by that idea. When I last visited the site, they were working on a demo they planned to release for those who showed enthusiasm and wanted to contribute with talents to the game. Unfortunately my former computer died at age 3 when band of roaches thought that a motherboard is a cozy home :( and lost the address to the site; if you really have nothing to do try to find it. As for your opinions, I agree with you on them. Never have I been so dissapointed since Fallout Tactics. CC is as much of a sequel to CT as Phantom Menace is the sequel to Return of the Jedi. As for my personal ranking in rpgs, they might fall in these order.

GENESIS=PS4, PS2, Shining Force 1 and 2, Shining in the Darkness.

SNES=CT, FF6, FF5, FF4, Lufia 1 and 2, Secret of Mana 1 and 2, Secret of Evermore (....only after much afterthought)

PSX=Tales of Destiny, FF7, Xenogears

PC=Flalout :) 1 and 2....thats about it...
 
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