Political Spergatory or How I Learned To Love /pol

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by SquidWard, May 25, 2020.

  1. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    It is not jus feelings here. My parents WAITED in China for their shit to clear. It was a huge process just go GET to the states. We spent time and money through the whole long process.

    Amnesty means skipping all that work and waiting to just be let in. It is ridiculous and bordering on insanity.

    But yea I get it.

    Those migrants sure are just looking out for themselves and they give zero shits about anyone else, what a great mindset.
     
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  2. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    We could just reform immigration so that it is not so difficult.
     
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  3. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    Totally for that. I am for compromise of course. Most Americans are. But it won't happen when leftists and folks like Dayglow would rather support blatant cheating than compromise.

    Right now, the categories are rather narrow and we can open up additional pathways for acceptance. In the mean time, we could work on a limited amnesty quota system so that ALL can benefit instead of one group of people.
     
  4. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    >proceeds to only talk about feelings

    Yes but at no point during that process was their wait lengthened because someone had snuck across the border
     
  5. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    Dayglow

    Can you read?

    I didn't mention JUST feelingz. I mentioned waiting, money, time, having a sponsor. Are you willingly being obtuse? Illegal amnesty SKIPS all that. With no support network, you have what is happening now. Illegals are preyed upon by unscrupulous employers. The mom has to work two jobs, neglecting her children. No prospects for the future.

    As to your second point. Besides the blatant disregard for due process, if mass amount of chinese were coming here, I am sure the process would eventually take longer yes. America doesn't have the ability to just absorb infinite amounts of people. If we were forced to use a quota system, which my example would eventually require, than chinese migrants are screwed.
     
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  6. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    DC you're Chinese? Are you good at math? Can you teach Mandarin?
     
  7. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    LOL

    I am indeed. I thought everyone knew as I said as much earlier in the thread .

    Naw, I am ethnically chinese but culturally american. I was a 3.0 student so average. No mandarin, just cantonese as my parents were too lazy to teach me mandarin and would speak the state than national language.
     
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  8. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    Yes that's true but like I've said none of that has any effect on the process of legally gaining citizenship. You can argue it's "not fair" and that's fine, but fairness isn't a quantifiable thing and really just boils down to what you FEEL like fairness is in any given situation.
     
  9. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    Dayglow

    Not now but it will eventually. Thr bigger the population, the less able the country is to welcome new people. Again, no country can absorb infinite amounts of people.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008


    Which is kinda funny that you mention it because Biden anounced a new immigration reform with clear due process to gain citizenship. And guess who's already geting ready to fight against it? Exactly. The they-should-come-in-here-legaly-conservative/republicans who do nothing but scream day in and day out that reform is needed, that they want clear rules yada yada. No one with a sane mind wants completely open borders or illegal immigration. But each time there is a some true reform coming up they always block it. At this point one must come to think they actually want a chaotic immigration policy as it's much easier to stir up their base when it remains such a chaos.
     
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  11. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    We're rejoining the Paris climate agreement upload_2021-1-20_19-28-41.png
     
  12. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

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    Jun 1, 2020
    What a waste of time. If they want to actually do anything for the environment they should reform the Eight Nation Alliance for one more romp through beijing to make them knock their shit off.
     
  13. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    If it is any consolation to the losing side today just remember that Biden helped to write the Patriot Act for the Bush admin. Your side is still in power just the less extreme side, well, I'm not sure that is actually less extreme. Maybe there is no issue with that though as I do not remember anyone attacking him over it, just that he was old or something.
     
  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    You konw one of the last things Trump did before he left?

    He gave he M*****f***** Bannon a pardon. Next to many other cronies.

    A meaningless act. I never understood the fuzz people made when Trump canceled it. All the countries here in Europe which are still members of this agreement simply don't give much of a fuck. Germany definetly isn't really following it. It's one of the things where I always thought, well at least here Trump was honest.

    Nothing will change with Biden though. Biden is the status quo. He's a whitewashed Obama. And that's the politics we can expect. More neoliberal garbage ...
     
  15. Aurelius Of Phoenix

    Aurelius Of Phoenix Psued.

    Mar 9, 2018
    I'm thinking tea leaves and velvet!

     
  16. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    He is also a zombie.
     
  17. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    Ah yes the whole "my argument is totally vindicated in the imaginary future I made up" schtick

    It does own that he more or less had hundreds of people commit a federal crime on his behalf and when many of them faced life-ruining charges as a result he ignores them, pardons Lil' Wayne, and then bounces. Grade-A cuck shit.
     
  18. iridium_ionizer

    iridium_ionizer Mildly Dipped

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    Jul 24, 2007
    George W. Bush tried to get that going (as kind of a grand compromise). But the Republicans in Congress treated it as radioactive.
    Barack Obama wanted to get that going, but he only had 2 years with a Democrat majority Congress - he spent all of his legislative goodwill getting out of the recession and passing Republican-lite-style healthcare reforms.

    Oh yeah, and Mortius owes me 100USD for the inauguration going through.
     
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  19. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    You mean just ONE part of my argument, ok. The other 2 on population and illegal makeup? You asked for links, I delivered.

    Cheating is cheating and latinos are benefitting far more in that regard. But we all know your ok with cheating.
     
  20. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    I never asked for links about how most illegal immigrants and a lot of legal ones are both Hispanic, it's completely irrelevant to the question I was asking you

    He's eating beans out of a can in his bunker right now