Post-Apoc. Archery

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Colt

Vault Dweller
This thread spawned from the Worst Possible things for FO3? thread on the seventh page. To halt further derailment I think we should continue the discussion here about archery and it's implementation in Fallout.

In reply to earlier posts in above linked thread...

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The lever-action crossbow is plausible and you could get more than three shots. It depends on how large you make the magazine for it. It wouldn't be a tube magazine so length isn't' a problem. It would most likely fire shorter bolts tipped with poison or some other chemical agent. It would be good for hunting small and fast game or against unarmored opponents.


I've heard of the deformation of archers but it wasn't caused by the tension of holding a bow string or anything like that. If I recall correctly, it was caused by the muscles becoming very developed on one side of the body and them starting to warp the bones slowly over because the muscles weren't stretched properly. The same thing happens to soccer players who don't stretch their legs enough. They develop a kind of bow-legged look because of the muscles. Modern archers know about stretching and proper exercises though so this wouldn't occur as much. - Colt
 
...the reason for a magazine is so that you don't need multiple barrels/prods... If I have a magazine, why do I need three different prods, one for each bolt? Even the Greeks had a design for a repeating siege crossbow that used a magazine. - Colt
 
Oh, for chirtsake, fuck the magazine, I get that you have a fucking magazine, but how will you shoot them quickly with one prod? You'd fire an arrow, another one would be loaded and then what? You still have to "cock" the string, and thats the most time consuming thing in the process, not the fucking arrow loading!
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Oh, for chirtsake, fuck the magazine, I get that you have a fucking magazine, but how will you shoot them quickly with one prod? You'd fire an arrow, another one would be loaded and then what? You still have to "cock" the string, and thats the most time consuming thing in the process, not the fucking arrow loading!
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That's a good point. A very good point.
 
As I mentioned previously, the bolts would be shorter in all likelyhood and the entire thing would be more of an oversized dartgun than full-fledged crossbow. You would move the lever forward and down and it would pull back two arms to pull the cord back to notch it. This would allow the small trolley attached mid-cord to move back and allow a bolt to ride up into the trolley pathway. Once the trolley is released, it would move forward stripping a bolt from the magazine and launching it.

I hope that's clear enough. - Colt
 
Roshambo said:
To put it simply, mix a 1873 Winchester and a crossbow. :D
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See, Rosh is the smart one... And clawed one I might add. This thing wouldn't be some sort of knight-killer but more like the Winchester in application. Light, small, and quick but firing low-powered projectiles compared to the normal crossbows. - Colt
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Right, so it would basically be more useless than a throwing knife, bouncing of every armor except the vault suit.
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Unless the fletching was unusually good and the tip unusually sharp and hard, then... Yeah. Anything above a leather jacket would stop it. Knock your breath out, perhaps. But not much else.
 
Okay, you go over there and put on this piece of armor I made from thin scrap metal.

Now let's see what you feel like when we're done.

I guess you're dead now.

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Colt said:
It would be good for hunting small and fast game or against unarmored opponents.
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Colt said:
Light, small, and quick but firing low-powered projectiles compared to the normal crossbows.
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DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Right, so it would basically be more useless than a throwing knife, bouncing of every armor except the vault suit.
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Please read what someone posts before making a false or repetitious post.

Also, I have a small, and extremely cheap, crossbow made out of mostly plastic that has a draw weight of maybe 20 or 25 pounds. It fires short, plastic, bolts with blunt metal tips and I know it could easily go through a leather jacket. - Colt
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Oh, for chirtsake, fuck the magazine, I get that you have a fucking magazine, but how will you shoot them quickly with one prod? You'd fire an arrow, another one would be loaded and then what? You still have to "cock" the string, and thats the most time consuming thing in the process, not the fucking arrow loading!
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If you had a magazine of 7 arrows, simply have 7 already set strings...

load arrow 1, fire with string 1
load arrow 2, fire with string 2,

etc...
 
MethidParadox said:
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Oh, for chirtsake, fuck the magazine, I get that you have a fucking magazine, but how will you shoot them quickly with one prod? You'd fire an arrow, another one would be loaded and then what? You still have to "cock" the string, and thats the most time consuming thing in the process, not the fucking arrow loading!
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If you had a magazine of 7 arrows, simply have 7 already set strings...

load arrow 1, fire with string 1
load arrow 2, fire with string 2,

etc...
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and for that you'd need either a very big "mylti layer barrel" or else the cords would be intertwined....
 
What about Cho Ko Nu, the Chinese auto crossbow?

(Perhaps not auto but very fast firing.)

I think that this is it, though I got it off a Chinese website so I could be wrong:

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DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Right, so it would basically be more useless than a throwing knife, bouncing of every armor except the vault suit.
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Which isn't much different to using a shiv or baseball bat on combat or power armour.
 
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