Primitive Weapons

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I think that in FO3 maybe there should be less high-tech weapons like plasma rifles and more primitive weapons like
melee crowbars, sledgehammers, knives etc, crossbows,
pistols,
shotguns
some rifles.

FOR AT LEAST 50% OF THE GAME. AT LEAST.
Maybe near the end you could get some high tech hardware.

Armour the same. Metal armour max. until halfway when you get some Combat Armour, and later when PA would come along at least in the late-game.

I'm not sure how to explain this. Maybe the world was wiped clean again by war. Or the gangs just got so bad that society just collapsed into chaos.

What do you all think?
 
I agree. A lot.

I'm sure everyone agrees that the funniest part of both games was the early part, where you had to search for weapons, and money was scarce.
 
ooo...

Thats exactly what Xotor said to me! But FO2 doesn't let you get advanced weapons until at least NCR! That IS halfway through the game! You DO keep using metal armor half the game!
 
RE: ooo...

Actually, you can get Metal Armor MkII and a Combat Shotgun in VC. That's some pretty advanced stuff.
 
VC Defenses... WTF???

Okay, WHEN DID VAULTS SUDDENLY get "heavy laser turrets" arround their perimeter? and they don't even have a laser PISTOL. God, they only have a combat shotgun.
 
RE: VC Defenses... WTF???

Play Fallout some time, and when it gets time to kill the Master, just join him instead. You'll get some nice footage of your vault buddies getting attacked by a super mutant horde, and they're fighting the mutants with a little more than just combat shotguns.
 
Stuff breaks down, you know.....

I don't know a lot about weapons, but I can't believe that stuff after 160 years survives. I liked the pipe rifle a lot, just because it was so low-tech. I couldn't find much more stuff that seemed to be build after the war. The H&K p90c is a joke. H&K is a german manufacturer, and I can't believe someone came all the way from germany to the US after the war. They should have more crude weapons, like the spear, or the pipe rifle. I really would like to see a (cross)bow, because that can be made easily. Hell, you could even make your own arrows (with a special perk). Or a harpoon or something. Bazooka's should be banned, or at least the rockets should be real scarce. You can recast a bullet, but a rocket blows up, you can't do anything with the shrapnel.
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

Yes, and you should be able to yank the used arrows out of your enemys, but you would have to repair some of them. NOTE THIS IS NOT SARCASM
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

And there is another thing. You know some people "import" german guns
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

I remember reading that American manufacturers bought lisence to build HK guns.

Btw, the H&K p90 is unrealistic, as I couldn't imagine why they would make a sub-machine gun look like a steyr aug. But then again, you have the Vault Dweller holding a sub with one hand, so nm.
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

I remember reading that American manufacturers bought lisence to build HK guns. Maybe not i dunno.

Btw, the H&K p90 is unrealistic, as I couldn't imagine why they would make a sub-machine gun look like a steyr aug, or like something from out of space, and have it called the p90 when there was another sub that was made by Fabrique Nationale. But then again, you have the Vault Dweller holding a sub with one hand, so never mind.
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

The H&K p90 doesn't look like a Steyr Aug. Check www.securityarms.com and see for yourself. BTW you can get plasma rifle, laser pistols and Combat Armor in New Reno. Just work for the Wright family.
-Kilroy was here-
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

You can get them working for the Salvadores who are in kahoots with the Enclave, but I don't remember any energy weapons being in SAD.
 
OK, ITS ATLEAST 250 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? TAKE 1800 TO 2000 FOR EXAMPLE. NOTICE ANY CHANGE? IN MY OPINION, ENERGY WEAPONS WOULD DOMINATE THE MARKET OF WEAPONRY. THOSE USELESS MELEE WEAPONS WOULD JUST BE BORING. THEY ARE THINGS OF THE PAST!
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

Actually, there are a number of energy weapons there, I just did that place today.
 
>OK, ITS ATLEAST 250 YEARS IN
>THE FUTURE, RIGHT? TAKE 1800
>TO 2000 FOR EXAMPLE. NOTICE
>ANY CHANGE? IN MY OPINION,
>ENERGY WEAPONS WOULD DOMINATE THE
>MARKET OF WEAPONRY. THOSE USELESS
>MELEE WEAPONS WOULD JUST BE
>BORING. THEY ARE THINGS OF
>THE PAST!


why are you shouting?
 
RE: Stuff breaks down, you know.....

Really? I just remember making several trips to the car, packing rockets, assault rifles, and dessert eagles for sale in San Fran. :)

Of course, it's been a while since I've played Fallout2.
 
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