Sharpton at the Con vetion- the black vote

Meh. Won't convince any Republican voters, but quite a good speech.
One thing I don't understand, though: why the hell do some Americans pronounce "ask" as "aks". How hard is it to pronounce the word correctly?
 
Sander said:
Why the hell do some Americans pronounce "ask" as "aks".
They just want to feel special.. Which they are, just not necessarily in a good way.
 
You're talking about a black guy from New York City- and New York has many different accents.
 
He shouldnt have shouted so much. He tried to talk above the crowd and it reduced the impact of his speech. Also, I kinda dont like him. Obama was a far better speaker. He said the same thing in a far more positive way. Not to mention, if you knew about Sharpton, how he lied about some policeman raping a woman, you might not like him so much. Hes a colorful speaker and has made up for some of his past wrongs by taking trips to Africa and through civil service at home but he still has a ways to go before he clears himself of his past. He shouldnt have been allowed to speak - at least not in such a good slot.
 
Sander said:
Meh. Won't convince any Republican voters, but quite a good speech.
One thing I don't understand, though: why the hell do some Americans pronounce "ask" as "aks". How hard is it to pronounce the word correctly?

Its often attributed to ebonics or what I call lazy english.

Other words that closely resemble aks is foo instead of fool or wud up instead of whats up. Included in the family are words like joo instead of you and fo instead of for.
 
Shevek said:
He shouldnt have shouted so much. He tried to talk above the crowd and it reduced the impact of his speech. Also, I kinda dont like him. Obama was a far better speaker. He said the same thing in a far more positive way. Not to mention, if you knew about Sharpton, how he lied about some policeman raping a woman, you might not like him so much. Hes a colorful speaker and has made up for some of his past wrongs by taking trips to Africa and through civil service at home but he still has a ways to go before he clears himself of his past. He shouldnt have been allowed to speak - at least not in such a good slot.

Al Sharpton has had a history of blaming everything on the "white man" and how they are "keeping the black man down". I agree that Obama had alot more charisma and clearly presented his views without resorting to the classic "blame the man stance". It was most refreshing when I heard him say, "Black youth need to realise that being smart and carrying a book is NOT acting white". Finally an addition to the few democrats who actually tackle the problem at its source.
 
I wouldnt go that far. Social stigmas are part of the issue but not all of it. Shapton certainly presents another perspective. I dont hate Sharpton for his blame the man perspective. Its valid. I dislike Sharpton for his actions. He has incited bloody antisemtic riots and falsely accused people of rape for publicity.
 
I would have to disagree. How many asians were discriminated against? About just as much as black folks. However you might ask how the asians brought themselves out of the reputation of dumb chink or stupid mongloid who knows not a word of english.

I am tired of blacks blaming everything on the white man yet they themselves wear their pants halfway down their asses and speak some god unknown language. Instead of being proud to be thug, go read a book. Intead of being content with ebonics, go check out dictionaries and educate oneself in the proper use of english.

How can they demand respect when they can't even respect their fellow man by calling eachother racial slurs. I mean when have you seen an asian go "wud up my fellow chink" or a white man go "how are you doing today cracka?"
 
I know I comes off as racist but by all means I am not. I actually have a good amount of black friends.

Although the media does often present an unfavorable image of blacks, it is nowhere near as bad in america as it was during the civil rights movement. I would love to see more black youth looking to people like Frederick Douglas as heroes instead of Tupac, Biggy Smalls and the like.

I just want senators and congressmen who are above the pettiness of buying votes through racial harangues. I mean I saw Obama speak and I was like "Damn, this guy is good".
 
I have to agree that Sharpton's history is troublesome.

Darkcorp, I think you have to take the "accused cops of rape" thing in a bit if hindsight. Remember this was before the "Cops shoots unarmed suspect 54 times" or the "Cops sodomize prisoner with night stick" headlines of a few years ago.

THe story was that Twana Brawley said she was gang raped by a bunch of officials. She was an attractive black adolescent and for awhile they had her secluded in a church because they didn't trust the police. Later it was found that Brawley lied. Not sure if Sharpton knew about it, but it was guilt by accomplice.

That said, did blacks have reasons to fear cop in NY? You bet. These were tense times. This was either during the Dinkins administration in NY or right before, and it was the issue of race that brought down Koch (one of the longest serving mayors) and brought (and eventually killed Dinkins).

As for the anti-semetic thing- I think you are referring to the riots in Brooklyn between blacks and jews.

That happened when a car, driven by a jewish guy, went out of control and plowed a black kid into the side of the wall, essentially crushing her in half. When the cops showed up they quickly realized that the girl was a goner and went to help the jewish people who had been in the accident. But the blacks looked at this as if the white cops were ignoring the blacks and favoring the jews. This sparked the riots and the intensity.

So yes, Sharpton was in some bad shit, but it was also a bad time. For a good read- check out Wolfe's Bonfire of the Vanities for the intensity of the time. This was also depicted in Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing- summer in New York, Bed Stuy- things got intense.

Not making excuses, just putting things in context.

as for aks- it's not ebonics, it's just NY. Ebonics came about after Sharpton, and actually developed more as a west coast phenomena, I think.
 
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