Suprnova.org dead for good

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Macaco

Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
This once honored source for bittorrent links is gone for good, and it's not a simple downtime, the owner is taking it off the air... For anyone that used it even once to break the law, this is a great loss... :cry:

Well, at least this means less trouble for the admins here everytime someone posted [mistary site].org
 
I think the large sites are gone, I think some of the smaller ones will survive.

I know the Suprnova folks were working on a decentralized P2P project called Xeem.

Who knows.
 
There's no site to just browse anymore, I'm not gonna have very much fun when I'm really bored. It was lots of fun just seeing which movie is already available for dl before it's released and such.
 
It is a shame really. The ideas of "filesharing" and "P2P" are not illegal. The owners of these sites should not have to control their users actions just like ISP's should not have to. If we got treated the same way these websites are getting treated almost no one would have internet access. We send copyrighted pictures through e-mail, use them on forums, share news stories, etc. I think it is time to boycott the capitalistic RIAA and MPAA! Also, fight for fair use rights!
 
Nope, it's gone for good calculon.

@Dixie: There's a big difference between P2P networks like ED2K, and a bittorrent site. Suprnova hosted torrent links that were obviously used for stealing copyrighted material. There was a lot of open source material on there, but the VAST majority was pirated material.
 
Daaaaaamn, i tought it was just some internal problem with the SN guys, server costs and such... I was kind of pissed having to get my trackers at torrent reactor, i guess i'll be even more pissed when it goes under too.

Now that's bad, back to edonkey and iRC, wich sucks...
 
:: raises the flag of the RAF (no, not the Royal Air Force) ::

Yes, my brethren. Let the hate guide you. Bomb those capitalist pigs and eat their children!

:: begins handing out AK-47s and molotov cocktails ::


Anyway. Another hive shut down, eh? Well, SuprNova made the classic mistake of an underground website: it got too big.

No organization can afford to hunt down individuals and shut down each offspring of a P2P client or source site. However it is rather easy to track down and eliminate popular megasites -- that's why Kazaa died (oh, come on, you don't want to call the new Kazaa "alive", do you? KazaaLite lives on nevertheless) and why napster went down.

Matter of fact is, tho, that you cannot sue the maker of a tool for possible abuses of it -- although I wouldn't be surprised if people have actually sued companies producing lead pipes, monkey wrenches, baseball bats and chainsaws for getting attacked by people wielding them.

P2P is a legitimate idea. BitTorrent is a great way to release electronic media or software without overloading your FTP server. However it's mostly the open source projects that profit from the existence of such products and no big commercial organization *really* likes open source anyway.
 
Dove said:
Nope, it's gone for good calculon.

@Dixie: There's a big difference between P2P networks like ED2K, and a bittorrent site. Suprnova hosted torrent links that were obviously used for stealing copyrighted material. There was a lot of open source material on there, but the VAST majority was pirated material.
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My whole point was that they are not responsible for what their users post anymore than ISP's are of their users or liquor store owners of their buyers of alcohol. I found A LOT of non-copyrighted things on www.supernova.org.

Dixie_Rebel said:
If we got treated the same way these websites are getting treated almost no one would have internet access. We send copyrighted pictures through e-mail, use them on forums, share news stories, etc.
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It is a shame.
 
Dove said:
Nope, it's gone for good calculon.

@Dixie: There's a big difference between P2P networks like ED2K, and a bittorrent site. Suprnova hosted torrent links that were obviously used for stealing copyrighted material. There was a lot of open source material on there, but the VAST majority was pirated material.
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Actually they could have a hard case proving that the site did in fact break the law, first off filesharing tech isn't illegal, secondly the site hosted links to file which were hosted by several other clients, which where never their site. So technically they could have had a hard time, but the guys behind the site doesn't want to risk the chance of loosing money..

Ashmo said:
Anyway. Another hive shut down, eh? Well, SuprNova made the classic mistake of an underground website: it got too big.
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Excatly!
 
Hm... don't tell them that there's no legitimation for suing P2P networks. The fun part is that they don't know and don't care.

Y'know, you can see a lot of fubar if you subscribe to EFFector.
 
Good point Odin, whether they did anything that could be strictly considered illegal, or not, they wouldn't have been able to keep the site up during litigation regardless. I still think it would be much easier for the MPAA/RIAA to sue a single site (even with a lot of mirrors), than it would be to attack the millions of users.
 
I am so glad that filesharing is leagal in norway.
We can download whatever we want, and as long as you keep it to yourself its all ok.
 
well, i never use bittorrent anyway as it is as slow as you can get (try downloading Free Anarchy Online from the official torrent and you'll see what i mean)
 
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