Wow, that thread has everything that could be expected of the general magpies that follow the general gaming industry as if they don't have a brain. Awww...now their little reality is going to be shattered when the media grows a pair before these kids figure they HAVE a pair to begin with. That is going to be fucking spectacular.
I certainly loved the idiocy displayed by Kain A. Shitburger, everything we have come to expect from the little media whore children. As long as they have the humor, that's all the fuckwit considers to be important to Fallout. Something tells me the child should sit down with F
OS and then try to make those statements again. Also, exactly what was "light-hearted" about Fallout? It was originally full of dark irony, especially when you take into account the ways to defeat The Master, and how his plans started. Oh, right. The stupid, incessant easter-eggs this shitstain and the rest consider to be staple, because they played Fallout 2 without bothering to look at the first, and therefore don't have any clue of how badly BIS really fucked it up.
Ryan Patrick said:
Whoa, there, Troika may have folded because the didn't understand the point of a QA cycle, but Black Isle wasn't guilty of broducing stinkers- Baldur's Gate, Planescape, et al were great games, they just happened to be a victim of Interplay's financial mismanagement. Lumping the two companies together is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
BioWare was responsible for the original attempt at ripping off Fallout's speech system for an RTS combat engine - exactly what BioWare did for Baldur's Gate. Except that they didn't try worth a damn, which goes to KoTOR's lazy speech loops that don't make a bit of sense in speech tree construction.
BIS was also responsible for the wonderful Asswind Dale, the shitty expansion that required them to add a supplemental download to it to add more substance, and then Asswind Dale II was everything we have come to expect from BioWare's whore about cutting corners for a full price tag.
So in terms of how much GOOD work BIS has done, then it's on the minor side. Especially when you consider they just became BioWare's whores again to pull off another great Feargus SLAM DUMP! of an incomplete game these kids don't care about because it has pretty light sabers.
Bethesda has yet to do something other than re-fuck a character system into an even more mindless but shiny RNG adventure slashfest.
Then there's Jasconius, and their idiocy around the steampunk genre, in first saying it doesn't exist, then tries to downplay how the setting really isn't "unique" though that was their earlier claim around why it wasn't in a genre that isn't a genre. Apparently this child hasn't seen many Victorian-themed D&D campaigns and settings despite how much of a whore he is for Dipshits and Douchebags Online. Nor can this condom-escapee understand the definition of the genre when it is plainly given to him, making it obvious that he hasn't yet graduated from high school or has and is everything we have come to expect from the fine American fast food employees. Gah, and their site is the typical Kelly-X attention whore fare, but with even less content than the average content-abusing Kelly-X site. And, admittedly, far less brains.
The games list makes it clear this child has no clue. Chances are, the rest of the stains on that forum have even less gameplaying experience and industry experience to see where success (faithful with improvements that suit the design style) and failure (trend-chasing) come about.
... the usual morons using the "open-minded" argument (Q-BanditZ) that makes it clear that these fellows have "opened their mind" too much they don't have any brains left in their head, and obviously are younger than any game series I could use as an example, proving this kid to be full of shit with the never productive comment about "open minded". Save that for people who give a shit about political correctness, not those who are discussing game design and how trend-chasing fails, or how some people are foolish for expecting Bethesda to suddenly develop a real CRPG, which is a far stretch when they have yet to prove any ability in that aspect.
Unkillable Cat said:
Also, keep this in mind. You are referring to the forum for a General Me-Too Internet Gaming Site. ALL OF which are spineless, brainless, rectally-enlarged ad-whoring lapdogs of the game industry. Is it worth your time asking them for an opinion?
That generally sums them up, indeed.
You really expect anything intelligent from E-Tardchest? Good luck.