The Unwashed Masses' thoughts on Fallout

If you think this is the general public, you are quite mistaken.

The general public does not play games that were not made in the 21st century, only buys games that have been hyped to death by at least 3 non-internet media and don't last longer than 10-20 hours on the whole.

If you would ask the general public about Fallout, you might find someone who knows what you are talking about, and if you're lucky you might find someone who has actually played one of the games.

Also, keep this in mind. You are referring to the forum for a General Me-Too Internet Gaming Site. ALL OF which are spineless, brainless, rectally-enlarged ad-whoring lapdogs of the game industry. Is it worth your time asking them for an opinion?
 
Wow, that thread has everything that could be expected of the general magpies that follow the general gaming industry as if they don't have a brain. Awww...now their little reality is going to be shattered when the media grows a pair before these kids figure they HAVE a pair to begin with. That is going to be fucking spectacular.

I certainly loved the idiocy displayed by Kain A. Shitburger, everything we have come to expect from the little media whore children. As long as they have the humor, that's all the fuckwit considers to be important to Fallout. Something tells me the child should sit down with F:POS and then try to make those statements again. Also, exactly what was "light-hearted" about Fallout? It was originally full of dark irony, especially when you take into account the ways to defeat The Master, and how his plans started. Oh, right. The stupid, incessant easter-eggs this shitstain and the rest consider to be staple, because they played Fallout 2 without bothering to look at the first, and therefore don't have any clue of how badly BIS really fucked it up.

Ryan Patrick said:
Whoa, there, Troika may have folded because the didn't understand the point of a QA cycle, but Black Isle wasn't guilty of broducing stinkers- Baldur's Gate, Planescape, et al were great games, they just happened to be a victim of Interplay's financial mismanagement. Lumping the two companies together is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

BioWare was responsible for the original attempt at ripping off Fallout's speech system for an RTS combat engine - exactly what BioWare did for Baldur's Gate. Except that they didn't try worth a damn, which goes to KoTOR's lazy speech loops that don't make a bit of sense in speech tree construction.

BIS was also responsible for the wonderful Asswind Dale, the shitty expansion that required them to add a supplemental download to it to add more substance, and then Asswind Dale II was everything we have come to expect from BioWare's whore about cutting corners for a full price tag.

So in terms of how much GOOD work BIS has done, then it's on the minor side. Especially when you consider they just became BioWare's whores again to pull off another great Feargus SLAM DUMP! of an incomplete game these kids don't care about because it has pretty light sabers.

Bethesda has yet to do something other than re-fuck a character system into an even more mindless but shiny RNG adventure slashfest.

Then there's Jasconius, and their idiocy around the steampunk genre, in first saying it doesn't exist, then tries to downplay how the setting really isn't "unique" though that was their earlier claim around why it wasn't in a genre that isn't a genre. Apparently this child hasn't seen many Victorian-themed D&D campaigns and settings despite how much of a whore he is for Dipshits and Douchebags Online. Nor can this condom-escapee understand the definition of the genre when it is plainly given to him, making it obvious that he hasn't yet graduated from high school or has and is everything we have come to expect from the fine American fast food employees. Gah, and their site is the typical Kelly-X attention whore fare, but with even less content than the average content-abusing Kelly-X site. And, admittedly, far less brains. The games list makes it clear this child has no clue. Chances are, the rest of the stains on that forum have even less gameplaying experience and industry experience to see where success (faithful with improvements that suit the design style) and failure (trend-chasing) come about.

... the usual morons using the "open-minded" argument (Q-BanditZ) that makes it clear that these fellows have "opened their mind" too much they don't have any brains left in their head, and obviously are younger than any game series I could use as an example, proving this kid to be full of shit with the never productive comment about "open minded". Save that for people who give a shit about political correctness, not those who are discussing game design and how trend-chasing fails, or how some people are foolish for expecting Bethesda to suddenly develop a real CRPG, which is a far stretch when they have yet to prove any ability in that aspect.

Unkillable Cat said:
Also, keep this in mind. You are referring to the forum for a General Me-Too Internet Gaming Site. ALL OF which are spineless, brainless, rectally-enlarged ad-whoring lapdogs of the game industry. Is it worth your time asking them for an opinion?

That generally sums them up, indeed.

You really expect anything intelligent from E-Tardchest? Good luck.
 
zioburosky13 said:
Hm.. now they are ... well bashing Arcanum.. sorta... :roll:

It's all part of my master plan...

I called this to your attention because these are the people Bethesda are going to listen to, thus proving even more Fallout 3 will suck. From now on, I'll follow your advise DDD. I unfortunately have some small hope in humanity, which is a mistake.
 
Rule of the Retards

The thread is scary. But it just confirms that I'm not the target market for F3 ... 38 year old white guys seeking intelligent turn-based RPG play are not the demographic.

After joining this forum recently and trying to assimilate the opinions and information, I'm convinced that what I want for F3 isn't going to happen for many reasons. I loved the PC Fallout games (yes, even FOT), warts and all. But that era is gone, and it ain't coming back.

My bliss of playing Fallout the first time won't ever be replicated, and I can only hope that some other game will come along that creatively captures a genre like Fallout did.

One of the posters did echo one of my sentiments, though. I would pay for a professionally-produced new mod pack for F2 or FOT in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than nostalgia.
 
Re: Rule of the Retards

slobberindeathclaw said:
38 year old white guys seeking intelligent turn-based RPG play are not the demographic.
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Well, I'm a 14-year old seeking an intelligent turn-based RPG. You think game companies would try to appeal to youth, as they are wont to. Also, in my opinion, I don't think there are any RPGs that are intelligent in RT+P.

Correction: 14 year old white male.
 
You know, I get the feeling game-developers nowaday keep producing mindless product to appeal the younth with 3 elements:

Lotsa graphics, lotsa boobs (seriously, I'm getting sick of it! :evil: ) and lotsa 'wannabe' title.

What happen to the gameplay part..? :cry:
 
Re: Rule of the Retards

slobberindeathclaw said:
The thread is scary. But it just confirms that I'm not the target market for F3 ... 38 year old white guys seeking intelligent turn-based RPG play are not the demographic.

And you wonder why we consider you a moron, to the point where you have to send me whining PMs.

Fact is, there was trendy crap when Fallout came out. Ever hear of Diablo? The game designed for trend, though crafted well, that did the industry jack shit for favors akin to Myst, because both games bred stupidity into the gaming industry? So obviously Fallout's design must go the same way, because Super Avatar Brothers sold amazingly well for Ultima</SARCASM>. Yet, both Fallout and Diablo have their recognition years later, and Fallout's design was a THROWBACK in itself towards P&P RPG design when the CRPG genre was becoming so full of mediocre and uninspired shit, it needed a solid game to stand out and breathe new life into the genre. Which it did, and design in which BioWare has been cheaply ripping off ever since. Fallout was loved for that, and made its impact in a year when it could have been considered sleeper next to Diablo.

Great games series flourish and stay alive when there is something to them. Hence why Fallout is still alive and Diablo is essentially dead because Blizzard went the way of post-UO Origin. How's that for irony, kid?

So yes, you're considered a moron because you share the same stupid marketing mentality that has killed off game series in the past, and promises to be an uninspiring mess. Even a 14 year-old can learn to like a solid CRPG, if it's done right and with solid design of its own to make it noteworthy - as Fallout did in it's time. Now it's time for Fallout 3 to keep what made Fallout good, yet have improvements (not "refinements"), and nothing in it for cheap cash-in value that naively assumes that because you make it RT, you will instantly have the RT crowd. Or console. Or apply that to any marketing mentality and "trendy" thing that people assume MUST be in a game to appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator.

Fallout wasn't designed that way, not even for 1997.

Yet, I have another 10-post random asswipe try to tell me that we're not being fair in expecting Fallout to stand what it should stand for, especially when it's sorely needed since the CRPG genre has again become full of unimaginative shit (BioWare and the mentality they breed into the industry, which seems to now be including Bethesda since Pete wants to speak the stupid).

Sorry, kid, you're not being intelligent.
 
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