Time/Item/Merchant Bug

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Punker

First time out of the vault
I've noticed that when I advance a great deal in any game in Fallout 2, I encounter a time bug. The inventory of all merchants, suddenly, stops refreshing. All the stuff I sold them, they hang on to forever, and they never get anything new. I can't buy or sell. It's useless. I've encountered this bug in the game several times. The first time, I'm not quite sure what the game time date was, but the second time, I found it to be after June 12 but before July 1 of the year 2248. Anyone else notice this similar bug, or if I'm doing something wrong...?

All help would be appreciated...

Punker,
 
Punker said:
I've noticed that when I advance a great deal in any game in Fallout 2, I encounter a time bug. The inventory of all merchants, suddenly, stops refreshing. All the stuff I sold them, they hang on to forever, and they never get anything new. I can't buy or sell. It's useless. I've encountered this bug in the game several times. The first time, I'm not quite sure what the game time date was, but the second time, I found it to be after June 12 but before July 1 of the year 2248. Anyone else notice this similar bug, or if I'm doing something wrong...?

All help would be appreciated...

Punker,
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All towns? Only specific ones? I have heard this happening in San Francisco though I myself have never encountered it.
 
Punker said:
I first noticed it in San Francisco, but the bug carries to other towns.
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Out of curiosity, did you watch the death video of Matthew (Brotherhood guy) before you began to notice all this?
 
I'm not sure. But, I did load my oldest game, watched the Matt Death video (I guess I hadn't watched it in any of the games), and then tested the bug again. Still, at around June in 2248, the merchant NPCs' inventory locks up. I did get a weird effect; the one merchant in San Francisco would restock only an additional large rifle in his inventory, but he wouldn't get more cash.
 
Punker said:
I'm not sure. But, I did load my oldest game, watched the Matt Death video (I guess I hadn't watched it in any of the games), and then tested the bug again. Still, at around June in 2248, the merchant NPCs' inventory locks up. I did get a weird effect; the one merchant in San Francisco would restock only an additional large rifle in his inventory, but he wouldn't get more cash.
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Ok, the reason I ask is that it has been reported that after viewing the Matt death sequence, a bug is triggered where shops stop restocking. As I am working on a bug fix pack for Fallout 2, I have this on the list of things I am trying to fix. See this thread for what I have already done http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12738&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240
 
Thanks for the responses. If you are working on a patch, one other bug would be this: you get the briefcase from Moore in Vault City to give to Mr. Bishop, but if you kill Bishop, steal his files, and complete the eliminate-the-raiders quest trail, this never gets crossed off your action list for Vault City. (If you go back to Moore, he keeps telling you to deliver it to his Mr. Bishop.) Any idea when a patch might be complete?

Thanks.
 
Punker said:
Thanks for the responses. If you are working on a patch, one other bug would be this: you get the briefcase from Moore in Vault City to give to Mr. Bishop, but if you kill Bishop, steal his files, and complete the eliminate-the-raiders quest trail, this never gets crossed off your action list for Vault City. (If you go back to Moore, he keeps telling you to deliver it to his Mr. Bishop.) Any idea when a patch might be complete?

Thanks.
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I will look into that.

I am currently on a Fallout hiatus, so no new release date is known. You can still download the current work (I have released several packages already fixing at least 100+ bugs) that I have done from the link I sent you. Here is another link to all the corrections I have made. http://zcn.phix-it.com/fallout2/corrections.txt
 
Kind of sounds like the seemingly unfixable "too many items" bug. This occurs when there is alot of different items in one inventory at once. This generally happens with the merchants in san francisco and your trunk. This causes your skill button to black out and be unusable.

If you could fix this in your next patch bear dude i would be grateful 8)
 
If you have sold too many kinds of goods to the same seller, he may not be able to refresh his stocks, I think this bug has already been stated in Per's guide.
 
I've had confirmation by email that the Matt video sequence is not the trigger of this bug, but it's just a time thing. It seems it must be the engine that bugs out, not individual scripts. The ultimate way to test this would be to check if all commands that create items fail to execute, for instance by solving an unfinished quest that produces items, or seeing if random encounter merchants have items.
 
Strange problem with vendors

For some reason, I can't buy anything from vendors anymore. It seems I can buy from some of the noob vendors in places like Vault City courtyard and such, but for some reason I can't buy from most doctors, and I can't buy weapons in NCR or SF. They just don't have any stock. I can sell them stuff, but they have nothing to trade in exchange. I gave a lot of junk to one of the NPC's, and they will sell anything I gave them back to me, but nothing out of their own stock. I'm so near the end, and I really want to beat this game. I can't really tell you how long this has been going on because for a long time I didn't use stores, I was pretty well self sufficient from drops and stealing (did I mention I can't steal from shop owners?). But now I can't buy anything, and I'm almost out of stim packs and ammo, and badly need equipment.
 
Hi!

A search for "stop+to+restock" yields one thread, which I am presently engaged in merging this into.
 
I see. Well, this was made a year ago, anyone got any new advancements since then anyone?

Oh yeah, and what's the Matt death sequence?
 
Poopdude5 said:
Oh yeah, and what's the Matt death sequence?
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It's a sequence where Matt of the Brotherhood becomes dead. You'd know it if you'd seen it. In any case, it's not related.

Try to find some random merchant on the world map and see if they have stuff. If they do, maybe it's not the item spawning routines that have crashed, but the routines to transfer inventories from shop containers to shopkeepers.
 
Where would I find some random merchant? I've looked for the 'trader with guards' or whatever to try to find an alien blaster for a good character, but I can't find him.
 
Hey I'm new to this forum and I just wanted to say it seems like a great place!

Anyways...I have the same bug :/
It's very annoying because i'm just levelling up and suddenly realized that I can't get any more 2mm EC...or in fact anything from a shop that wasn't there already

Does anyone have a solution to this yet?

By the way, Poopdude5, if you still care the alien blaster can't be found by anyone with this crazy bug because the merchant's inventory doesn't restock D:

Even if you meet him multiple times, his items will just be the same (haha for me it was like a flare, some rope, stims, and money...horray...)

Thanks in advance
 
tz2z said:
By the way, Poopdude5, if you still care the alien blaster can't be found by anyone with this crazy bug because the merchant's inventory doesn't restock D:

Even if you meet him multiple times, his items will just be the same (haha for me it was like a flare, some rope, stims, and money...horray...)
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That doesn't sound like you have the right merchant. Anyway, did you check to see if quest items spawn and so on?
 
I'm pretty sure quest items still spawn but anything that's like a shop, bartering, etc is completely screwed up
 
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