Trees on Mars?

Makenshi

Makenshi

Ahoy, ye salty dogs!
I was surfing the web, found this page showing photos of Trees on Mars - taken from the Mars Orbiter Camera (Global Mars Surveyor) - and guess what? Let me post it on NMA to see what the boyz think about it. No retardeds around to post shit, you know.

My two cents are that it's either some kind of cristaline formation or trees indeed. Anything is possible in this huge universe we are in.

Actually I believe it's infinite, but I won't discuss it... too much trouble you know ^^

The link: http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html
 
Makenshi said:
I was surfing the web, found this page showing photos of Trees on Mars - taken from the Mars Orbiter Camera (Global Mars Surveyor) - and guess what? Let me post it on NMA to see what the boyz think about it. No retardeds around to post shit, you know.

My two cents are that it's either some kind of cristaline formation or trees indeed. Anything is possible in this huge universe we are in.

Actually I believe it's infinite, but I won't discuss it... too much trouble you know ^^

The link: http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html
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Gotta love it when people get all in a fuss about some bad pics because they're desperate to prove "those darned dogmatic scientists" wrong. Those pictures really just aren't good enough to form any solid conclusions from. It's really just speculation until/unless they get some decent pictures of whatever it is.

While the formations do bear a striking resemblance to trees, they could just as easily (and more probably) be crystalline formations or some other geological formation that's not present on Earth. The vastly different temperature and atmospheric conditions, along with whatever substances make up Mars' surface, would suggest the possibility of unknown geological phenomena. Those same conditions make it highly unlikely that multi-cellular life exists presently on Mars.

Could also be some form of "petrified" trees; evidence suggests that Mars might have once been much more hospitable to life.

Of course, life can persist even in conditions that would we would think of as entirely unsuitable (the inside of a volcano, for instance), but it generally consists only of single-celled life forms.

This is all assuming those pictures are real and I'm not being hoodwinked.
 
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NASA scientists think they now know what some tree-like shapes are on the south pole on Mars.

They say the marks are probably made from frost melting on sand dunes.
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just saw this. A bit old, but still interesting

A potential outward bound destination for astronauts: Phobos and Deimos - the two moons of Mars. NASA is stirring up the exploration pot by co-sponsoring in early November the first international conference on sending robots and humans to Phobos and Deimos. This global gathering of experts will meet at the NASA Ames Research Center in California. They’ll detail new ideas on probing Phobos and Deimos, as well as how to utilize the two moons as a gateway for exploring Mars itself. In the human exploration department, scientists and engineers are to delve into what an expeditionary crew might do on Phobos and Deimos - and how to use those mini-worlds to help in investigating the red planet. Also, what precursor robotic missions that might be needed will be addressed. By the way - Russia is already spearheading a multi-nation project to explore Phobos, dubbed the Phobos-Grunt mission, a sample return effort eyed for 2009.
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Russia is already spearheading a multi-nation project to explore Phobos, dubbed the Phobos-Grunt mission, a sample return effort eyed for 2009.
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*Revs chainsaw* Alright, lets do this!.

In all seriousness, though, those photos could be anything. The first and foremost thing to remember is that Mars is a totally different planet from Earth. With all the variety of Earth's lifeforms, we are all descended from the same basic genetic elements. In fact, there is no greater then a 10-15% difference in the genetic makeup of any animal (not sure about plants) on Earth.

On an entirely other planet, with different atmosphere, elemental makeup, radiation and gravity, odds are we wouldn't just get bigger trees. Whatever grew there might be totally different from what we even perceive as possible life.

I recall a short storey (by Arthur C. Clarke I beleive), where some Martian explorers encounter a series of small yet increasingly large pyramids that are broken at the top. What they discover is not a civilization however, but instead an animal. A creature composed of silicon and other "non-organic" elements which builds itself pyramids, grows larger, then breaks out only to repeat the process some distance on.

I'm just saying, since what where seeing here looks like big terrestrial trees, means absolutley nothing because the odds of plant life on Mars resembling Earth life that much is in fact quite low.

Then again, compared to other planets it is said Mars was quite Earth-like. And it's atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide, which Earth plants would thrive on.

Still, my first thought seeing the pictures was that it was the crags and ravines of craters, and the photo had been colour-reversed to make it look like upward extensions of branches. I guess we'll have to see in a couple decades when we get a human down there.
 
I've seen colonies of micro-organisms, crystals and sedimentation patterns that look very similar to this. However, I've also seen trees and they don't look like that. It is amazing how frequently certain patterns crop up in the natural world.

If there were more familiar, terran style trees once, they would have decayed before being destroyed by the elements.
 
I think its important for us all to weigh in that we know little about the outside world. Many of the conclusions here are based on the world we currently reside and not the unknown possibilities on Mars.

It is important to gather all information possible, analyze that data and based on that analysis come to a conclusion. We clearly do not have enough information here. Intensive high resolution scans and possibly exploration of that particular area via rover or what have you needs to be completed before we can make any safe conclusions or assumptions.

My money is on the true location of where Mars candy bars are created.
 
You know what i think? Fuck it. I mean, fuck it all. Fuck the universe. We will not see it with our eyes. Mars could be inhabited by three headed trolls, we won't know that anyway, because NASA broadcast can be made in Hollywood. Yeah, and fuck Spielberg, too.
 
I bet they turned the camera the wrong direction, and took snap-shots of the Earth instead. Yeah, fuck the Earth too.
 
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You know what i think? Fuck it. I mean, fuck it all. Fuck the universe. We will not see it with our eyes. Mars could be inhabited by three headed trolls, we won't know that anyway, because NASA broadcast can be made in Hollywood. Yeah, and fuck Spielberg, too.
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You want change pally then you've got to bring it. You've got to set fourth that tiny ripple that triggers another and another. Unfortunately there are too many our there saying others dreams are not possible... I'm sure Christopher Craft is rolling in his grave heh ...Unless those uber cool sites claiming there were "visitors" during the apolo landings are true. Then Chris Craft is just... I don't know where I was going with this. Bottom line is, your TV's broken.

...My money is still on where they create Mars candy bars...
 
Seeing that I'm a molecular biology student, I'll look at microbiology for a second.

Some bacteria (probably starved).
Fungal mycelium (mould).

I couldn't really be bothered to look into the physics of what might cause such patterns in the Mars photos right now.
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That is a really amazing idea, only a molecular biology student could have come up with it! As a Ph.d of mycology i can vouch for the mycelium idea. Assume, for one minute that this is a mycelium. It's growing ON the surface, there is NO fruit body present of any kind. So how can i work? Well i propose to you gentlemen that the fruit is growing underground.

How you shout raucously! Well there are a few theories, the first could be that the centre of Mars if hollow. This would explain why all the aliens can hide so easily. A second theory is this thing is a truffle with the fruiting body buried in the cold earth. (get it earth?!)
In this case i think we need to run some checks on whether the article writer had anything to do with truffle farmers. If so gentlemen i think we are looking at the biggest cover-up since the Winfrey affair. Think of what this bastard would do to the truffle market if it could be harvested?! All those elitist French truffle growers and their pigs would be screwed.

Anyhow there is a third theory, a theory most sinister. This theory is that the scientologists were right all along and this… thing is a remnant from the hydrogen bombing that released the particle thetans.

Whatever the case gentlemen i applaud you to pray! Pray and gargle prussic acid. That is our only hope.

On the other hand it could be a rock.
 
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