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Whats so bad about this game? I think its perfect. After all, its just a demo, so some things are useless (like pilot, big guns, energy weapons, gambling, charisma, speech, ect.) but thats because the demo doesn't have EVERYTHING.

The purpose of a demo is a small taste of what the real game is, and most of you people are acting like its the final version and that it sucks.


"Dad named me after some comic book character before the war. Said he was one mean sonuvabitch too"-Cassidy
 
What's so bad about this game:

What's so bad about this game:

1. The appearance. It's not fallout, and i doubt if it's a wasteland... It's more like a SAND-SAMPLE-FLOOR, with some smooth hollywoodish-prop-barrels and cars, smooth+clean fences and structures and so on....
No grain, no Dirt, no Fallout...

2. The Control - it's annoying and frustrating... It's not exactly CTB, it's more like LIMITED-REAL-TIME.... Most of the tactics happens before Battles, and that's bad...
What happened to in-battle tactics?
It's also hard to put ur strategy (if you managed to make one - out of all the rather simple situations...) into action - since it requires different actions of MORE THAN 2 of your crew AT THE SAME TIME...

AND - At some point in mission two i found no need for any tactics... I used the cool weapon i found on that psycho dude that i killed in 1.5 seconds, to slaughter any person who stood against me FROM DISTANCE - in the final hut...

It was rather humorous... Strom got hit over and over with bullets that escaped the guns of the dying raiders - and healed easily with my never-used-doc....

3. The appearance sux....
4. The demo DOESN'T make me want to purchase the game, unlike the FALLOUT 1 demo...

SEE - i don't care how much you guys are gonna rant about it being just a DEMO, a fraction of the final result -

IT CAN BE ALL THAT and still reflect the game, OR - MAKE YOU WANA PURCHASE IT.

The Fallout 1 demo, even though refelcting a very small part of fallout - Gave the ATMOSHPERE, FEEL, and APPEARANCE of the game which matter to me so much - thus made me wana buy it...

THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH THIS DEMO.
I couldn't care less if there was ONE MISSION, and no tutorials - IF IT HAD A WHOLE, NICE AND FINAL LOOK, or at least one that could satisfy me and make me want to purchase the game...
It seems to me alot of the people here, either have low standards, or they didn't perceive Fallout the way I, and hopefully alot of other Fallout Fans Did....



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RE: What's so bad about this game:

>What's so bad about this game:

>No grain, no Dirt, no Fallout...

I still like the graphics. ;)

Look at me! I'm wearing day glow red and still whipping your butt! ;)

Seriously though, I still think the character generation will let you pick your colors for your armor, hair color, skin tone, etc. I think it's a game device to let you tell your guys apart.

>2. The Control - it's annoying
>and frustrating... It's not exactly
>CTB, it's more like LIMITED-REAL-TIME....
>Most of the tactics happens
>before Battles, and that's bad...

Not only that, but try this.. Set Strom to "Aggressive" in Real Time mode. You can just waltz him through both missions and take out everyone single-handedly without much problem.

>What happened to in-battle tactics?

What happened to the balance? That's a larger question than the tactics. You can argue that where you move your people are tactics, but considering they mainly kill everything that moves near them on agressive, it's not much more than a waiting game.

The balance is the big problem. In Turn Based mode, Agility = Speed, since agility determines APs, which determine how fast you can get in and out of situations.

In Real Time mode, everyone moves at the same speed, and movement is FREE. That's right, it doesn't take APs to run around.

Therefore, if you got a character, and you dumped a lot of points in to Agility, you're fine in Turn Based mode, but you're screwed in Real Time mode.

In TB mode, if I have a 9 Agility, Fast Shot, and Bonus ROF, I can move in to a door frame, get a shot off, and move back behind cover before my turn is up. In Real Time mode, I'll get plugged the minute I poke my head around the corner.

That's not helpful considering a person that's done his research in to the flaws of Real Time knows that Agility sucks for Real Time. You're better off going the Beefcake, high endurance route OR the long range, high perception route.

Therefore, it's much smarter to ignore Agility for the most part unless you're only going to play turn based mode. Simply put, that means that a character which will do well in TB mode may just plain suck in RT mode.

That's an IMBALANCE, people.
 
RE: What's so bad about this game:

Agility in RT mode means the ability to dodge bullets not to shoot first. Plus, in reallife, if u poke yr head round the corner and the enemy see u, of course he will shoot u first. True, Storm can take them all on with his smg cause u use his skills well. If u start with a level 1 char, see, u pull that off. True, the game is still inbalance, but I believe it will work out great. See the poll, most of the ppl loved it or liked it. This game is aim at a larger group of ppl than hardcore rpg fallout fans. The last thing about fallout graphics, since it is a demo, of course less dirt or grease will be added or the game will be too large for 56k or 28.8k modems to downloaded. I am one of them. :(
 
RE: What's so bad about this game:

Yes, good point. I have a 56K modem and I had to download it overnight to play the game. Most people only have 56K modems because they can't afford a great expensive DSL or they don't live near an area where it is available. 120MB was big enough for me to download, and if the game had any more detail, it'd take me forever to download it.

"Dad named me after some comic book character before the war. Said he was one mean sonuvabitch too"-Cassidy
 
RE: What's so bad about this game:

>Agility in RT mode means the
>ability to dodge bullets not
>to shoot first.

In Fallout and in FOT's turn based mode, Agility affects all those things. The fact it doesn't do all those things in Real Time mode makes it unbalanced.

>Plus, in
>reallife, if u poke yr
>head round the corner and
>the enemy see u, of
>course he will shoot u
>first.

Not true. That's assuming everyone has the same reaction speed. Most real life shoot outs involve people swinging out from behind cover and firing.

>See
>the poll, most of the
>ppl loved it or liked
>it.

Look at all these threads in this forum. Most of these threads offer much more detailed thoughts on the subject than simply "Did you like it?" A lot of people who liked it have a plethora of concerns.
 
RE: What's so bad about this game:

1: I rather thought that agility and perception work together as if u spot the enemy faster than u could shoot first. As u jump out of cover to shoot, u are in the open thus the return fire.

2: They are still half covered not like us in the open. I agree with the different reaction speeds, but it normally dun take a second to react. SO there isnt much difference.

3: They may have their concerns but overrall they like the game. And not much ppl air their views on this board. It is always we that is discussing. I dun like the word argue.
 
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