Various theories, suppositions and other sensationalist bull

[Bulletbait]

I have read the Fallout Wiki and i do not see any mention (confirming or denying) the possibility of cloning technology.

Any thoughts?

 

[Ashmo]

Cloning as in copying/duplicating humans (ala Sixth Day)?

Doubtful.

The Master did a lot of experimentation on humans tho, so genetical cloning (ala Dolly) may be possible if you have the right equipment.

 

[Bulletbait]

Hm.

I did something particularly short-sighted when I named this thread. Now I've got all sorts of other "What if?" and "Possible?" crap rolling around in my brain.

What the hell happened to Japan before/during/after the great war? I don't see any references to it between '42 and '92... how great was the timeline divergence from real-life in Fallout in regards to Japan's technological/economic development? Its proximity to China probably spelled doom for it, i suppose. Perhaps it harbored a great wealth of technology, weaponized and domestic (more likely domestic, given the outcome of WW2)...

What happened to those damned Aussies and Kiwis? No real mention of them, either. Looking at the Fallout Wiki and seeing all these damn holes in the Fallout world/timeline both pisses me off and gets me brainstorming.

Wish I could rename the damned thread.

 

[Silencer]

Wish I could rename the damned thread.

Before Ashmo sets to prey on you : You can! Just edit your first post!

 

[Bulletbait]

Wish I could rename the damned thread.

Before Ashmo sets to prey on you : You can! Just edit your first post!

Heh. Thank you, Silencer. (Hits self with noob-stick)

Also... I can't recall anything being said about the Roswell incident (which was in the mid-late '40s, wasn't it?) Perhaps the US government had aliens (or alien corpses) and extraterrestrial technology lying around in their Area 51-esque top secret facilities? Might explain where that idiotic Alien Blaster actually came from.

Everyone, feel free to answer my questions or pose more of your own! Let's fill in the blanks in Fallout's timeline! Or at least post until we're laughing too hard to continue.

 

[Argonnot]

Firstly, the blaster was no idiotic, secondly, i think the alien corpse's throughout the games were hints and such, as to what what happening in government secrecy.

 

[Hartigan]

Might explain where that idiotic Alien Blaster actually came from.

I think there's no need to explain something which was actually an easter egg.

 

[TorontoReign]

Next were gonna be trying to explain the talking cow playing cards.....

 

[Bulletbait]

Might explain where that idiotic Alien Blaster actually came from.

I think there's no need to explain something which was actually an easter egg.

Ok, you have a definite point there. But I do so hate easter eggs (except in games like Duke Nukem 3D and Blood and Serious Sam where the atmosphere is FAR from serious).

And the cow playing cards, har har. I've seen enough of those damned "Dogs Playing Poker" paintings that it simply didn't strike me as that funny.

Anyways, the possibility of alien doodads lying around in government facilities is just too tempting to NOT speculate about. Right now I'm almost wishing i had posted in FO3 suggestions and ideas...

^ BTW the only humor that belongs in FO is the humor that is definitely in context to the surroundings and appropriate for the setting. Was the Alien Blaster out of FO character? Not entirely, I suppose, given the amount of wacky sci-fi alien invasion cinema in the 50s. But FO2 nearly made me gag with the number of utterly irrelevant easter egg references (Monty Python and the Holy Grail? OK, hilarious movie but FO easter egg? ).

...So there.

 

[Frontball13]

SOMEbody takes this game too seriously...

 

[Bulletbait]

SOMEbody takes this game too seriously...

Hey! Do you see the title of the thread? Do you have an answer to a question or a new and interesting question/theory relevant to the topic? No? Then take your words elsewhere, fucktard. Go make a "Bulletbait sUxOrZ!" thread for all I care.

I do NOT take this game TOO seriously. I take it SERIOUSLY enough.

 

[Frontball13]

Hey, no offense, really! I just mean that you seem to be degrading parts of the game that people put in to make the experience more entertaining (hence the term "game"). I respect the fact that you are attempting to make deeper sense of this really great story, but don't trash the fun parts that were put in for people's enjoyment.

Ok, you wanted a theory on stuff that shows up in the game. I've got a theory on what actually triggered the whole nuclear holocaust. Why was the government of the United States hiding out on an oil rig in the first place? I think, that each government in on this plan got to a safe place and is conducting its own "rebuild the world" plan. The ultimate form of reshaping the country.

 

[Bulletbait]

Ok, you wanted a theory on stuff that shows up in the game. I've got a theory on what actually triggered the whole nuclear holocaust. Why was the government of the United States hiding out on an oil rig in the first place? I think, that each government in on this plan got to a safe place and is conducting its own "rebuild the world" plan. The ultimate form of reshaping the country.

I think I read in the Fallout Wiki that the reason the US government had retreated to an oilrig was because it was sitting on the last known reserve of oil - they kept the location top secret due to the insanity breaking loose at that time (eg, if you're in a prison with hundreds of other starving people fighting desperately for food and you find a box full of candy bars, you aren't gonna say word ONE to anyone else about your stash). Now as for the other governments of the world, after the EU fell apart, who knows what exactly happened to Germany, France, Italy, Spain or any others - the war with the Middle East likely had the Saudis (did Ibn-Al Saud actually have Saudi Arabia before the timeline divergence? I haven't a clue as to when Arabia became SAUDI Arabia) in tatters, and most of their population would have likely returned to a nomadic desert-wandering lifestyle (the ones that actually adapted to their new world, likely most of them didn't) and I would guess the other Persian Gulf countries likely suffered the same fate. Their kings might have had some sort of elaborate bunker (remember Saddam's bunker-tunnel network? possibly something like that) or headed to sea in a converted supertanker or container ship. Not sure if fundamentalist Islam had taken root at that time but if so the mullahs and their followers would have very likely been killed - they would trumpet about "Allah crushing the infidels with spears of flame from the heavens" or some rot, and thus trap themselves, having stirred their supporters into a state of blind fanatacism, fearing no death. The mullahs wouldn't be able to run away - that would be cowardly, cause them to lose face with the worshippers, and likely result in a messy execution for lacking faith in Allah... without their leaders, the radical Muslims would likely have quickly descended into anarchy, their belief shaken, and that in itself may have had far-reaching implications for the Middle East. Who knows what happened to most of Africa - I don't recall there being much oil in Africa, possibly uranium or coal, but if Africa's current instability is any measure no person of great import in any African nation made it to safety, and the Hutus and others would suddenly become the REAL power players in Africa (ironic, what goes up must come down... the "down to earth" cultures besides those in the Middle East, Northern and Southern Africa on Earth would have made a very strong showing - can't lose what you don't have, more or less - and might explain the profusion of tribal societies in the Americas - TRIBALS! yay )

The Russians are most likely reduced to reindeer-herding peasants between the ravages of China and the US (there might be more mention of the Soviets in the Fallout Wiki, but I can't remember off the top of my head).

Now the Australians pride themselves on being a very hardy lot, Aborigine or no, hence my interest in their status post-bomb. Since I don't think they have any fossil fuel production to speak of (could be wrong) they wouldn't have necessarily earned more than a couple bombs on major ports/airbases where the US would likely have still held a foothold militarily. And New Zealand... well, they're New Zealand. Nobody much cares about them and they like it that way. But it's a pretty place to visit.

South America... aside from the countries bordering the Caribbean (Venezuela and all its oil!) they probably would simply have suffered the usual self-destruction of advanced societal structure and the Jivaro and other tribes wouldn't give a howler monkey's ass about it. Mexico gets the screwie from the US in the Fallout Wiki, and I would assume Venezuela's rich oil resources would have been summarily devoured by the US after their march into and through the Yucatan. Again, possible coal and uranium deposits further south but... I wouldn't know.

 

[Lazarus Plus]

If the oil rig is in fact the same rig that the Chinese got all huffy about, there's no way it's location was secret. Everyone knew about it. I think it was probably just a converted rig whose reserves had run dry.

 

[Bulletbait]

If the oil rig is in fact the same rig that the Chinese got all huffy about, there's no way it's location was secret. Everyone knew about it. I think it was probably just a converted rig whose reserves had run dry.

http://vault.duckandcover.cx/index.php?title=Enclave

It had run out of oil by the time of the Enclave's appropriation and conversion of the rig. Doesn't say anything about the Chinese getting cheesed off about that rig in particular...