What overrides the text id in prototype files?

Digital_Utopia

Digital_Utopia

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I mean - for most critters/NPCs etc, each one referenced in a map, has a proto PID that references a prototype file, which, in turn, contains the index to the entry in pro-crit.msg, where you get the name, and the description.

However, in some cases - like, say, President Richardson, his pro file has the msg id of 9400 - which is "Up Class Citizen (M)", yet there's an entry for "President" (id 29300). I just can't seem to find the missing link to tie the two together. Anybody have any ideas?
 
In the description / look_at_p_proc you can override the assigned name from the scrname.msg file.

Normal critter reads from proto -> attach a script and it reads from scrname.msg (if the line is not empty) -> use script to manually override the name. Keep in mind that the dialog review button in the dialog interface will always show the scrname.msg entry, because description/look at obviously doesn't cover this.
 
Lexx said:
In the description / look_at_p_proc you can override the assigned name from the scrname.msg file.

Normal critter reads from proto -> attach a script and it reads from scrname.msg (if the line is not empty) -> use script to manually override the name. Keep in mind that the dialog review button in the dialog interface will always show the scrname.msg entry, because description/look at obviously doesn't cover this.
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Thanks, but I still can't seem to find where the appropriate index to scrname.msg is. President Richardson's scrname.msg index is 903 -
Code: 
{903}{}{President Richardson}           # qhPrzRch.int    ; Enclave President Richardson talking head.

yet, that index doesn't appear in the compiled script (qrPrzRch.int), the source (qPrzRch.ssl) or in the map object itself.
 
Digital_Utopia said:
Thanks, but I still can't seem to find where the appropriate index to scrname.msg is. President Richardson's scrname.msg index is 903 -
Code: 
{903}{}{President Richardson}           # qhPrzRch.int    ; Enclave President Richardson talking head.

yet, that index doesn't appear in the compiled script (qrPrzRch.int), the source (qPrzRch.ssl) or in the map object itself.
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The president script is (qhprzrch.int).
 
Vali said:
In the scrname.msg located in text.. game.

NAME SCRIPT
903 President Richardson qhprzrch.int

DESCRIPTION
Enclave President Richardson talking Head.
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I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear.

I need to find out where index 903 in scrname.msg is referenced. I see that entry, which is why I posted it. But I have nothing in the game files, that actually points me to that index.

Upon reviewing qhprzrch.ssl, I see references to the descriptions - indexes 100-102 in qhprzch.msg, but nothing to scrname.msg.

Or, to further simplify the issue, this is how it normally goes.

Map object -> ProPID -> Critters.lst (/proto/critters) -> .pro file -> textID -> pro_crit.msg -> name

in this case, however, as his name is obviously not "UP Class Citizen (M)", and I apparently need to get the real name from scrname.msg, it's like this.

Map object -> ScriptID -> Script.lst -> qhprzrch.int -> ?????? -> scrname ID -> scrname.msg -> name
 
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Digital_Utopia said:
I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear.

I need to find out where index 903 in scrname.msg is referenced. I see that entry, which is why I posted it. But I have nothing in the game files, that actually points me to that index.

Upon reviewing qhprzrch.ssl, I see references to the descriptions - indexes 100-102 in qhprzch.msg, but nothing to scrname.msg.

Or, to further simplify the issue, this is how it normally goes.

Map object -> ProPID -> Critters.lst (/proto/critters) -> .pro file -> textID -> pro_crit.msg -> name

in this case, however, as his name is obviously not "UP Class Citizen (M)", and I apparently need to get the real name from scrname.msg, it's like this.

Map object -> ScriptID -> Script.lst -> qhprzrch.int -> ?????? -> scrname ID -> scrname.msg -> name
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His real name is President( President Richardson Enclave) ,there are Up class citizen(m)(fred - The Den when you give him the money and he win or NCR that guy near Tandi) , Vice President(vice president bird in enclave) , Bartender(bartenders) , AHS-9(hubology chief)
 
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Digital_Utopia said:
I need to find out where index 903 in scrname.msg is referenced. I see that entry, which is why I posted it. But I have nothing in the game files, that actually points me to that index.
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It's an engine thing. Scrname (script name) goes by script ID, which is the line number in scripts.lst or just look up the script in the header file.
 
Once a script is given to a critter in-mapper, it changes it's name according to the scrname.msg file. The entry # suppose to be the (script#) + 100.

Vice president Bird actually has its own proto, but it is not used. Instead, Up class citizen is used as proto. Since a script was attached to it, and its # on critter.lst is 854, he's scrname.msg # will be 854+100=954.
"
{954}{}{Vice President Bird} # QCBird.int ; Enclave, Vice President Bird
"
 
Lexx said:
It's an engine thing. Scrname (script name) goes by script ID, which is the line number in scripts.lst or just look up the script in the header file.
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Y'know, I was hoping for a direct reference, but on a whim, I started comparing the ScriptIDs to the scrname.msg indices. Checked Richardson, Byrd. and the secretary- even a guard, and sure enough - they all had a difference of 101 between the two.

Small sample size, true- but since scrname.msg starts at index 101, I think I'm gonna run with it. Thanks again for your help!
 
Zorchar said:
Once a script is given to a critter in-mapper, it changes it's name according to the scrname.msg file. The entry # suppose to be the (script#) + 100.

Vice president Bird actually has its own proto, but it is not used. Instead, Up class citizen is used as proto. Since a script was attached to it, and its # on critter.lst is 854, he's scrname.msg # will be 854+100=954.
"
{954}{}{Vice President Bird} # QCBird.int ; Enclave, Vice President Bird
"
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Thanks! - I finally figured it out myself- but it's awesome to get confirmation on that.
 
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