Yet another Stalker interview

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The translations of russian Stalker interviews is Stalker - Oblivion Lost's specialty, this time around they translated an interview by Kamrad.ru, here's a snibblet:<blockquote>Q: If a 10-ton container falls onto a rat, will the rat get flattened? Or will the corpse be rigid as a rock and the container ballance on it?
A: Small fish will get dismembered, larger creatures and people - not. This is the result of censure of many countries' governments. There will only be dismemberment of people in anomalies. Censure forbids the player from doing bad things with models of characters, which makes this kind of action normal in people's minds. But if an AI stalker gets into anomaly, this should not cause the player to go into the streets with an axe, right? :)</blockquote>Oh right...well..
Link: Translated Stalker interview@Oblivion Lost
 
Yes, the translation is kind of awkward. But the notion of censorship of violence sucks the big one. Hopefully there will be mods to remedy this.
 
No cut up the enemy into small peaces and put them in a jar action :shock: Dam those censure :!:
 
I think censorship should be optional -- it should require some kind of parental lock to override or whatever.

To experienced psychologists it's clear that violence in games and movies does not create serial killers, it's however also clear that some people are so fucked up they'll turn psycho no matter how non-violent and censored a game or movie is -- it's not even important whether the game or movie was the cause, it's just an easy scapegoat.

You don't need to like violence in games, but consider this: if people want violence, would you prefer them seeking it in real life rather than in video games? As long as it is easy to tell fiction from reality, there's no reason to be worried about violence in fiction.

I find comical splatter movies fun to watch, but don't laugh when someone gets cut to pieces in a serious horror thriller -- it may not be real but it's a lot harder to enjoy than, let's say, "Braindead" (aka Dead Alive) simply because it is less artificial. Horror movies are not humorous, they are meant to shock you and scare you, you can only "enjoy" them because afterwards you know it's all just fiction and you've been distracted from the real world for a while.
The scariest horror movies are usually very close to real life situations. I find them more dangerous, even if they are not ultraviolent, for children and people who don't have an exactly tight grip on reality because of that.

In Germany the main factor for age ratings is graphical violence. That's why an extremely shocking and disturbing psycho-thriller I once saw was rated "12+". News reports showing real violence -- mutilated corpses, people getting shot, bomb victims -- have no age restriction at all. Exaggerated splatter movies with fountains of blood erupting from the smallest cuts and Monty Python-esque black humor holding it all together however get rated "Adults Only" or get an advertisement ban. Does any of that make sense?

I love splatter movies, have no problem watching horror thrillers and can stand quite a level of real cruelty, but nevertheless I chose the mandatory social service over military draft. The only reason I like violence in movies and games is that I know they are not real, the only reason I can endure news reports depicting mutilated bodies is that I don't let them touch me, but that doesn't mean I like violence.
I wouldn't enjoy hurting or killing people because I know that death is permanent. I wouldn't enjoy seeing real people suffer around me because it'd be reality.

Now, I know it sounds absurd that I still say that I love setting children on fire in Fallout or putting a shotgun to someone's head in Postal 2 (a game that gets boring fast because of the total lack of story, I might add) and I can't explain why I like it, but I know that I in no way would ever want to do the same in real life.

Fantasies are one thing, comitting such acts in real life is another. Violent thoughts don't create serial killers, homosexuals don't have to want to rape you just because you're male and pedophiles are not neccessarily going to abuse children.
A question of ethics maybe, but seeing how there's a large group of people who enjoy violent games and movies, I think that violence is justified. Ethics can only be defined by the people as a whole and if there's that many people whose personal ethics permit the existence of ultraviolent games, the consequence is that such games are ethically valid. What age restriction they should be given is another question, but I personally think a parental control would be a lot better than an easily evitable age restriction -- but that's a different issue.

My 0.02 bottlecaps.
 
You said it Ashmo :clap: A parental lock woud be a lot beter just like "soldger of fortune" that was the most violent grapfichs game that i remember you coud cut the guts out slit theyr whouts throw a knife at them and wath them scream and its was fun :twisted: and fallout had its fun moments too so they just better put a parental lock and problem solved.
 
The problem is most kids know more about the games than the parents, so they might figure out how to prevent that.

Then again, I don't think that many of the kids intelligent enough to figure that out have a loose enough grip on reality to go bonkers over severed bodyparts and fountains of blood.
 
Sure that kids may be able to berak parental lock ..... but it's not about such situation. It's as if you banned seling kitchen knifes because someone could get hurt using them.

Anywas violence is more like esthetic feature to me. Something that adds to the mood if well implemented. For example critical kills in Fallout. If it's adjustable ie user is able to set violence level or switch on and off gore graphics then it's all ok to me. As long as you can switch it on and off no parental lock is even needed. It's up to parents to check what games their kids play. If they care they will make sure violence is minimalised, if not then why even bother ? Kids will find something with violence anyways ( other games, movies, websites .... daily news )
Anyways when I see info that game was censored because it's oh so bad it make me laugh and abit angry. I'm not a cattle to chose for me what should I see and what not. If they say there is alot of violence and I don't feel like seeing so much violence I just wont play such game. Info about content is all I need, not censoring everything that can be censored so I wont accidently look at unwanted contents.
 
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