well actualy "whining" (whinging?) and "flaming" of Bethesda and their devs was frowned upon here in the beginings as it can be even seen with some long time users that receiving a strike for "trolling". The NMA community is not responsible for the attitude of its users. But in General, NMA gave Bethesda the benefit of the doubt. If you dont believe it you can search for the threads were Emil replied in here. It was pretty friendly. At least the few times he posted.