A real vaccine against addiction

I never really thought of it. I just didn't really pay much notice to it, I mean, it's an alternative universe, post-apocalypse, there are super mutants and mirelurks around, I just didn't find it that odd. Looking at all the technology they have that we don't, it didn't really seem odd to me.
 
KillerBee256 said:
http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-researchers-patent-heroin-vaccine-002814664.html Back when I first played fallout 3 I thought it was stupid and unrealistic that one shot from a doctor and the player had all their addictions cured. But I guess Bethesda got lucky it looks like science is moving in that direction.
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It was set in an alternate future where we have lasers and power armour. I'm sure medicine advanced to the point where people can be quickly cured of their addiction.
 
It bothered me because the player doesn't have to deal with the concrescences of their own actions. In fallout 2 there was no way to get rid of addiction, so it was a major thing if you got addicted to something.
 
Huh? Addiction in Fallout 1 and 2 disappeared with time, or with the Jet Antidote, so there was a way to get rid of it, and the antidote was just liek the magic injection in 3 and New Vegas, only you had to complete a quest for it. Then it had infinite free uses.
 
I honestly did not know that, I knew of the Jet Antidote, but not that withdraw passed with time. My fallout 2 characters stayed away from chems, those who didn't didn't last long.
 
Fixer sort of makes it all academic as well. There's at least one quest in New Vegas that deals with this very issue.

Then again, Bethesda probably didn't think ahead much and just thought there'd be a miracle panacea for addictions in the game. Their policy has been to not punish players for bad decisions by saddling them with consequences.

Afterall, Skyrim's drugs (aside from Skooma) have no side effects or cause withdrawal or anything.
 
DevilTakeMe said:
Afterall, Skyrim's drugs (aside from Skooma) have no side effects or cause withdrawal or anything.
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Drugs are good, hm'kay?
 
This is going to backfire joust like Buprenorphine backfired.

My friends are actually cooking and shooting subutex. That shit is scary. They replaced addiction with another addiction.



THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BEAT ADDICTION - COLD TURKEY
 
This is going to backfire joust like Buprenorphine backfired.

My friends are actually cooking and shooting subutex. That shit is scary. They replaced addiction with another addiction.



THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BEAT ADDICTION - COLD TURKEY
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Buprenorphine hasn't backfired. In any maintenance program, where the opiate of choice is substituted by another opiate, abuse is always going to be an issue. I realise there was initial hype that a dual agonist/antagonist mechanism would prevent this, however anyone with a good grasp of pharmacology should have foreseen that it wouldn't be that simple.

Maintenance programs are good; there are many well documented reasons for this, both in terms of benefit to the addict, and benefit to society as a whole.

I can only imagine people IV'ing subutex if they were already IV users. In which case, the situation isn't ideal maintenance I'd agree. Is it worse than the (probable) alternative though? Whilst injecting orally prepared subutex isn't great for one's health, I doubt it's any worse than shooting street heroin, and I know it's better than IV'ing oxycontin that has a time-release matrix.

Science is still a *long* way from providing an actual chemical cure to serious physical addictions.
 
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