Games made for adults can't have aliens or time travel? How about dozens of stupid references that have no place in a serious universe?
You are not understanding what I meant. I meant that games made for adults are not made to be played by a 11 years old. So saying that you thought those things were part of the lore when you played the game at that age is no justification, because 11 years old were not the target audience for the games.
As I mentioned, I knew right away that the special encounters were not part of the game because they were obvious references to outside stuff, because I was 16-17 when I played Fallout.
Being that old already made me realize that those things are just jokes and not part of the core of the game "universe". Like I also said, I recognized the Star Trek and Monty Python references as soon as I saw them. But then even others I had no idea what they were from (like the TARDIS) I also knew they were just fun little jokes even if I just didn't understand from what they were (Dr Who in this example).
Fallout 1 makes several references to Alien tech (which I forgot about until reading this) that clearly show the developers never took the shit seriously.
That is exactly the point. These aliens references are not taken serious because they are jokes. And jokes are not to be taken serious. They are there so the player goes "Ah Ah. Silly.".
Nothing on that Reddit post shows definitive proof that aliens really existed in Fallout universe:
The Dr Sheng was the head of the Xeno and Botanic programs, this is totally different from aliens. Xeno means foreign, exotic. Dr Sheng was making totally new species of plants and animals, that didn't exist before. He was creating new life forms, which by themselves are already considered as xeno. He created new plants and animals. He didn't get extraterrestial creatures.
About Skynet, it says it was conceived using alien technology.
Again nothing definitive, since alien also means from a different country, and we know that in the Fallout world, Europe was much more advanced on some areas than the USA was (like in energy weapons and robotics/AI for example). Also a scientific log would probably say "extraterrestial" technology instead of alien.
"Alien" skeletons, can easily be mutated dwarves (Fallout has the dwarves), that one in the Sierra Army Depot even mention how they experimented on the subject by feeding it Mentats. Which for all we know could have mutated him to have a large skull and brain. It's Fallout, where mutations abound.
The "alien" space ship even says "Property of Area 51, return if found." so why would an alien spaceship say it is property of a governmental military base? Because it might have just been a new experimental air vehicle that was being made by the USA for use in the war. That was being piloted by super intelligent dwarves that mutated their skulls by excessive experimentation and fed mentats.
Also Fallout 1 does not make several references to extraterrestrial technology.
There is a generic line on generic scribes that say "I've seen an alien spaceship before.", But these are the same scribes that also say stuff like "Did you know that a black hole is actually an opening to another universe? I have it all worked out on paper. Too bad there won't be any more space travel until long after I'm dead."
And that reddit post is also wrong when it says:
and according to the Fallout 1 dev written survival guide, Psychic nullifiers are based on alien technology.
This false in a couple ways. First, what the Survival Guide says is that the Psychic Nullifiers are "
possibly the product of alien technology", second, alien can also mean from a different country (like I already mentioned) and third, the Survival Guide was not written by any Fallout Dev. It was written by two writers (William H. Keith, Jr. and Nina Barton) that didn't work on any Fallout game or even worked for Interplay or Black Isle
Once again, there is not definitive proof that Extraterrestrial life exist in the classic Fallout games. Because anyone can easily come up with reasons why the "proof" is not really proof. And I think this was the whole point about it. It was made to be just like in the real world, to have people guessing. Some would play the game and go "There are aliens in Fallout" and others would play the game and go "There are not aliens in Fallout" and others go "There might be aliens in Fallout", just like in the real world.
So until I can see in-game documents saying that extraterrestial life exist in the classic Fallout games, or a real space alien that we can talk to and tells us that, yes they are from a different planet or something concrete. Then I will still say that all the definitive proof that the classic games had real aliens as canon is total bullshit.
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