Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
welsh said:
Wasnt that some evil terrorist group in that suck-fest movie tomb raider?
Alec, Jebus, I'm sorry, but...
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Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Wasnt that some evil terrorist group in that suck-fest movie tomb raider?
bob_the_rambler
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Phil the Nuke-Cola Dude said:
welsh care to elaborate?
illuminati have been in both tomb raider suckfest, in deus ex & in thousands of books, movies & conspiracy theories.
as for the reasons why: illuminati
\Il*lu`mi*na"ti\, n. pl. [L. illuminatus. See Illuminate, v. t., and cf. Illuminee.] Literally, those who are enlightened; -- variously applied as follows:
1. (Eccl.) Persons in the early church who had received baptism; in which ceremony a lighted taper was given them, as a symbol of the spiritual illumination they has received by that sacrament.
2. (Eccl. Hist.) Members of a sect which sprung up in Spain about the year 1575. Their principal doctrine was, that, by means of prayer, they had attained to so perfect a state as to have no need of ordinances, sacraments, good works, etc.; -- called also Alumbrados, Perfectibilists, etc.
3. (Mod. Hist.) Members of certain associations in Modern Europe, who combined to promote social reforms, by which they expected to raise men and society to perfection, esp. of one originated in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, professor of canon law at Ingolstadt, which spread rapidly for a time, but ceased after a few years.
4. Also applied to: (a) An obscure sect of French Familists; (b) The Hesychasts, Mystics, and Quietists; (c) The Rosicrucians.
5. Any persons who profess special spiritual or intellectual enlightenment.
say welsh, i dont appreciate being called null and void twice in one thread... no belgians and no freemasons, barf
as for the reasons why: illuminati
\Il*lu`mi*na"ti\, n. pl. [L. illuminatus. See Illuminate, v. t., and cf. Illuminee.] Literally, those who are enlightened; -- variously applied as follows:
1. (Eccl.) Persons in the early church who had received baptism; in which ceremony a lighted taper was given them, as a symbol of the spiritual illumination they has received by that sacrament.
2. (Eccl. Hist.) Members of a sect which sprung up in Spain about the year 1575. Their principal doctrine was, that, by means of prayer, they had attained to so perfect a state as to have no need of ordinances, sacraments, good works, etc.; -- called also Alumbrados, Perfectibilists, etc.
3. (Mod. Hist.) Members of certain associations in Modern Europe, who combined to promote social reforms, by which they expected to raise men and society to perfection, esp. of one originated in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, professor of canon law at Ingolstadt, which spread rapidly for a time, but ceased after a few years.
4. Also applied to: (a) An obscure sect of French Familists; (b) The Hesychasts, Mystics, and Quietists; (c) The Rosicrucians.
5. Any persons who profess special spiritual or intellectual enlightenment.
say welsh, i dont appreciate being called null and void twice in one thread... no belgians and no freemasons, barf
Freemasons do exists. Many influential or famous people were members of that secret organization. I know of at least one Freemason - comrade Tito, late president of Yugoslavia.The_Vault_Dweller said:
Freemasons exist, or at least existed. They were an oddball Christian organisation wanting to do good their way.Go read Tolstoy's War and Peace, he uses them for instance.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Truman was a Freemason, Joseph Smith essentially founded Mormonism on stupider Masonic beliefs, most of America's founding fathers and alot of other people.
Freemasons aren't 'secret', for crying out loud. I know of at least four members my family who are freemasons, and the freemason leaders even give out interviews to local magazines...
And I believe the 'conspiracy' days are over, too. All the freemasons are good for these days is for helping eachother get jobs.
And I believe the 'conspiracy' days are over, too. All the freemasons are good for these days is for helping eachother get jobs.
What are you guys on? Free Masons are pretty widespread. When I was living further away from campus I had to take the bus past one of the Masonic Temples every day on my commute.
http://www.freemasonry.org/
http://www.freemasonry.org/
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Dro. You?Ozrat said:
I don't know any freemasons, but I know at least a dozen regular masons. They work on a construction down the street. I steer clear of them - they are all scary, conspirative people.