Any lawyers or HR pigs here?

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Token-not-found

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Acta and SOPA are nothing compared to the unregulated Big Brother employer. (though they both are worth fighting against)

Basically the employer is free to discriminate against you for anything you post online (things that have no bearing on your ability to perform your job like beign an introvert (in a non-intensive interaction job) or a woman wanting to have children (paid leave) or a black who looks ghetto or something like that).

I'm speaking of detailed google searches , social media etc.

The one single employable personality model (extrovert, chameleon , ass kisser ,no opinion, puppet) pisses me off to no end and i want to do something about it.

What can i do ? Someone needs to regulate this , it can be used as a means of discrimination without you or anyone ever knowing, it limits your already fragile freedom and creates a Big Brother fear mongerig athmosphere.
Want to freeley express yourself - you are free to do so --- but keep in mind you will be lucky to get food stamps for doing so!

Who can i write to , what can i do to raise awereness , to what institution should i protest to , petitions etc.

I do not live in the USA also not a liberal (neutral) , even though i sound like a huge one in this post.
 
Uh.

So.

You . . . hate interviewers viewing information voluntarily shared online and forming judgements based on their findings?
 
Token-not-found said:
What can I do?
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Don't publicly post information about yourself that may put you in a negative spotlight.

Token-not-found said:
Someone needs to regulate this
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You. You need to regulate yourself.
 
work in construction. Thats what I do. None of that corporate culture/facing the clock all day. But seriously, I will ask my sister, this is right up her alley shes a lawyer and has been in charge of enforcing company policy/protecting workers rights @ her last job. I''ll let you know what she thinks.

@ above, yeah that was my first reaction but I've seen this question come up before so I'm interested in the legality of it all.
 
Are you seriously saying that some magic governmental force should intervene to stop people trying to hire you from Googling your name? And that you should be able to do whatever you want online without it being connected to you? The Internet is not separate from the "real world." If you do something here connected to your name, you should expect people to find out about it. You're putting it in a public space.
 
Little Robot said:
Are you seriously saying that some magic governmental force should intervene to stop people trying to hire you from Googling your name? And that you should be able to do whatever you want online without it being connected to you? The Internet is not separate from the "real world." If you do something here connected to your name, you should expect people to find out about it. You're putting it in a public space.
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Ok i know i hit a nerve with the libertarian fantasy crowd with the word "regulate" , but come on- can you not see the potential for discrimination?

Most HR "people" are social whores , it comes with the job, what do you think them visiting your profile and finding out that you would rather read a book then socialize would affect their decision? Even if it's a librarian job, the bias is still there, leaving behind all the obvious and crass discrimination cases.
 
Actions have consequences, both in real life and online. I don't even know how to reply to the idea of regulating that. What you do in life will influence your chances of getting a job, it's always been that way.

Also many if not most jobs require a level of communication skills, so of course introverted people are a bit behind. That's not discrimination, that's just filtering for skills.
 
I'm not a libertarian by any means, dawg. I don't have a problem with businesses being regulated, but the problem here is that the Internet is a public space. It's like if you walk out in public wearing a sports bra with "want woman" on it and then start saying businesses should be banned from feeling less inclined to hire you when they see photos of it.

I mean, obviously I think that it would suck to get kicked out of the running for a job because some forum profile I have doesn't look interesting enough. But that's why you have to groom the way stuff associated with your name is put out there on the web: it's a public space and anyone can see it. Put more private information in a more private setting, or don't associate it with your real name.

Edit: BN said it better and more succinctly, as usual.
 
mobucks said:
work in construction. Thats what I do. None of that corporate culture/facing the clock all day. But seriously, I will ask my sister, this is right up her alley shes a lawyer and has been in charge of enforcing company policy/protecting workers rights @ her last job. I''ll let you know what she thinks.

@ above, yeah that was my first reaction but I've seen this question come up before so I'm interested in the legality of it all.
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I'm currently training to go in a field where interaction is scarce and where the corporate culture shit is practically non-existent .

I couldn't bear to work in such an environment, but corporate America propagates itself in all directions and influences all mediums.

It's good you found your "niche" and can bear your job, took some time for me to find something that i could do and enjoy without all the drone bullshit.
 
There's a man named billy corgan that I think would get along with you just swell, bro. You two have so much in common. Look up some of his writings, he don't think it be like it is, but it do
 
Token-not-found said:
Ok i know i hit a nerve with the libertarian fantasy crowd with the word "regulate" , but come on- can you not see the potential for discrimination?
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What you describe is not discrimination at all, or at least not in the way discrimination is usually understood. Discrimination would involve discriminating against people over things that are unrelated to their past behavior, such as skin color, hair color or gender.

That's not the case in your case, where a prospective employer treats people differently based on their past behavior. I mean, you seem to be advocating that people should get hired for the job they want regardless of, well, anything.
 
All employers will perform background checks, particularly for jobs that require a degree of discretion and presentability. Nobody will hire workers blindly.

As everyone else said, regulate yourself, instead of blaming others for your inability to do so.
 
Tagaziel said:
All employers will perform background checks, particularly for jobs that require a degree of discretion and presentability. Nobody will hire workers blindly.

As everyone else said, regulate yourself, instead of blaming others for your inability to do so.
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This.

This viewpoint right here is why i will from now on stay away from member discution here.

This status quo partisan shit really scares me .

Who would have thought hardcore fallout fans were avid status quo supporters.

Don't take it personally, you represent a larger sample.
 
Status quo partisan shit? No one agrees with you, man. No one.
 
Sander said:
Status quo partisan shit? No one agrees with you, man. No one.
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I don't care who agrees with me or not.

I just can't stand people who support collectivism (you need to change , the system is perfect) and "the status quo is always right" mentality.

Fuck - this background brings out the autist in me, how do i change it?
 
Token-not-found said:
Tagaziel said:
All employers will perform background checks, particularly for jobs that require a degree of discretion and presentability. Nobody will hire workers blindly.

As everyone else said, regulate yourself, instead of blaming others for your inability to do so.
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This.

This viewpoint right here is why i will from now on stay away from member discution here.
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And take your tin foil hat with you!
 
Token-not-found said:
I don't care who agrees with me or not.

I just can't stand people who support collectivism (you need to change , the system is perfect) and "the status quo is always right" mentality.
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That's what you think this is? This has nothing to do with "status quo is always right". It has everything to do with "you're wrong on this particular subject". Status quo is irrelevant.
 
Sander said:
What you describe is not discrimination at all, or at least not in the way discrimination is usually understood. Discrimination would involve discriminating against people over things that are unrelated to their past behavior, such as skin color, hair color or gender.

That's not the case in your case, where a prospective employer treats people differently based on their past behavior. I mean, you seem to be advocating that people should get hired for the job they want regardless of, well, anything.
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You really think employers aren't using social media and google to do active discrimination. It opens up new worlds of possibilities for discrimination. Black American who voted for McCain, not in this workplace, views on abortion, Israel, pepsi/coke, when they had a child, if they are gay/transgendered, like/hate halo. Every possible aspect of a person is now up for discrimination thanks to the internet. This stuff needs heavily regulation because businesses and people are terrible.
 
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