Arafat in irreversible coma

Also, Psycho, are you on crack? For the last two days you've been hopping around like a 6 year old OD'ing on Pixie Sticks.

Are you behaving this poorly naturally, or is this some kind of twisted joke?
 
Bradylama said:
Well, while the Israelis may be dicks, they're not the ones blowing themselves up in crowded cafes and transit busses


No, they're the one blowing them up from safety up in the air. And Palestinians can take the buss safely, but they can't go out. Do they even HAVE busses?
 
Actually I think Arafat was actually working against peace. THe Israelis and the Palestinians had a chance to work together for peace. But that would have worked against Arafat. Arafat rules as a warlord, not as a diplomat. His career rested on conflict, not peacemaking.

The same can be said for Sharon.

Ideally when both guys are out of the picture, peace might be secured. But both societies will have to want that, and that means getting over their past. Unlikely given the way these people remember past grievances.

Still there are lots of folks who harbor animosities for generations and then give them up to move on. Maybe the Israelis and Palestinians will be able to do it.

But I think we need to say good bye to both Sharon and Arafat.

As for Psychosniper- He used to be a flaming republican and then became a closet republican. He believes Bush's win allows him to come out of the closet and flaunt his nutty ideologies on the rest of us. But if we can't have gay marriage, we don't need Psycho-sniper's nonsense either.

So someone please bitchslap Psychosniper.
 
I find that a lot of old fart leaders like Arafat and Castro are all relics from the cold war and about to shove off the mortal coil before I turn 30. :lol:
 
This just in: Arafat Dead! Or braindead at least.

JERUSALEM (AFP) Political leaders in Israel and the West Bank steeled themselves for the end of the Yasser Arafat era as the vanguard of the Palestinian nationalist struggle for the past four decades lay brain dead in a Paris hospital.

Palestinian officials fiercely denied that Arafat had passed away after Israeli media reported that the 75-year-old had died.

But while French medical sources said Arafat was technically still alive, they added that he was "brain dead" and only breathing with the help of life support machines while in an irreversible coma.

Technically, Arafat is "not dead," one source told AFP on condition of confidentiality. But there was no hope of him leaving his vegetative state and recovering basic bodily functions such as breathing without assistance.

Such artificial care can be "extended for several days or several weeks thanks to the machines," the source said.

Israel's private Channel 2 network and army radio had reported that Arafat had been declared dead at a military hospital in Clamart, southwest of Paris.

But Azzam al-Ahmed, communications minister in the Palestinian cabinet and one of Arafat's closest allies, insisted news of his death was premature.

"It is wrong. If the president was dead, the whole world would know," he told AFP. "But it is true that he is a very critical condition."

Arafat was flown to Paris last Friday for treatment of a blood disorder after being airlifted from the compound in the West Bank town of Ramallah where he had been under effective Israeli house arrest for nearly three years.

Palestinian prime minister Ahmed Qorei had earlier tried to play down the seriousness of Arafat's condition, denying he was in a coma and insisting new test results had been positive.

Qorei had been attending emergency leadership meetings of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and the dominant Fatah party. Both have been led by Arafat for some four decades, but were chaired Thursday by former premier Mahmud Abbas.

Hundreds of Fatah supporters brandished portraits of Arafat as they took to the streets of Gaza City late Thursday while prayers were said for his welfare.

"We pray to Almighty God for the swift recovery of our president Yasser Arafat so that he can return to his people in good health," said the imam at Gaza's Sheikh Zayid mosque.

Residents in Ramallah were glued to their television sets for updates on the town's famous resident.

"I can't bear the thought he will die for good. He's our national leader, the one and only," said 33-year-old Mohammed Ribhi as his eyes filled with tears.

Amid widespread fears that Arafat's death could trigger chaos on the streets of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, all members of the Palestinian security services were placed on a state of alert Thursday.

"The security forces have been put on a state of alert and all members ordered to be on standby," one senior officer said.

"We have been told to prepare for any activity which is beyond the law and to protect the legitimacy of all the Palestinian institutions."

Signs of nerves on the Israeli side were also evident as troops in the occupied territories were placed on alert after Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz called a meeting in Tel Aviv attended by the heads of the country's security services.

Israeli public television, meanwhile, reported that army commanders were to urge the government to capitalise on Arafat's demise by working more closely with the Palestinians.

The army has drawn up plans, codenamed "New Page", to deal with all possible eventualities should Arafat die. But officers would also urge the government to coordinate its withdrawal of settlers and troops from the Gaza Strip, due to take place by the end of 2005, with Arafat's successors, the television said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has refused all dealings with Arafat since coming to power in 2001, instead confining him to his West Bank headquarters until his dramatic airlift to Paris last Friday.

Arafat's death or permanent incapacitation has the potential to galvanise the Middle East peace process.

Sharon met Abbas on a number of occasions last year before a massive suicide bomb prompted Israel to freeze top-level contacts with the Palestinians.

Arafat has also been snubbed by US President George W. Bush. Asked for his reaction to the reports of Arafat's death, Bush said "God bless his soul".
 
I don't get it. What country was Arafat the leader of? (I thought Palastine wasn't technically a state, but a people who want Israel's land for a state)

If he was elected democratically, then why don't they just elect a new successor? Is the country no longer democratic?

Sorry for my political ineptness when it comes to the Palastines .... :(
 
Bah! Palestinians are too busy planning bombings in markets and wedding parties to care about anything else. Arafat had his chances to come to some peace agreement over quite a few years and just threw them away. I'll be dancing with Psycho on his grave.

Also, who gives a shit if a military force actually uses its weapons designed to minimize its own losses. Everybody always bitches about how the US or one of its allies attacks their current enemies with long range weapons. As the old saying goes, "The goal isn't to die for your country, but to make the enemy die for his."
 
Welsh is right about one thing, Sharon and Arafat had their time, now hopefully things can begin to progress. Oh what I wouldn't give to see Netanyahu as PM again. He was 100 times the diplomat Sharon will ever be.
 
I heard from some guy on CNN that the younger generation of both peoples are much more moderate and by the time they are in power, peace will be a very real possibility.
 
Bradylama said:
Are you behaving this poorly naturally, or is this some kind of twisted joke?
I believe he's OD'd on Bush's propaganda.

You do realise Psycho, that through that one comment ( I won't even dignify it by repeating it) you represent your country as a group of racist, backward morons?

You go, Patriot! :roll:

On topic, this is pretty likely to cause a brief surge in violence (well, duh!), but I'm sure there will be some sort of replacement soon enough, I'm guessing they will end up being less moderate (it seems perverse that Arafat can actually be described as moderate, but it is a subjective term). :(
 
How the fuck can you take such a complicated matter and generelize what the "israelis or the palastinians want". I think it's pretty obvious that in both sides there are people leaning to the left or the right.
Simply saying one side wants peace and the other don't, it truly idiotic.

The death of Arafat (If in fact will happen), won't probably cause an insurge of violence and anarchy as there are succecors.
 
Dan: :ok:
As I said: unfortunaly there're still some people seeing the world in black & white... (NO that is NOT especialy adressed to someone in this thread)

as a pe... err... realist i think that more radical forces will came into power in the PLO
 
Yeah, I saw on CNN that he is now out of his coma. Guess it's not as reversable as the title of this thread would suggest after all :P
 
Nope, heard it on NPR that Arafat is dead. Funny they were playing the theme of the Godfather after that. Kind of ironic.
 
Commissar Lauren said:
Welsh is right about one thing, Sharon and Arafat had their time, now hopefully things can begin to progress. Oh what I wouldn't give to see Netanyahu as PM again. He was 100 times the diplomat Sharon will ever be.

Or Yitzhak Rabin. Assassinated by his own crazies. :cry:
 
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