Artsie != Math skills of any kind!

Ozrat

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Before I get started here, allow me to define the term "artsie." Here at my engineering program the university is divided into two main groups: us, the engineering students, and them, every other program. We are by far the superior ones in intellects and everything else while the artsies are barely struggling along on this planet. Before you try to argue this point like a fool, ask yourself this: Have you ever seen somebody with an engineering degree flipping burgers? No? Good.

Now back to my main topic. Recently I had to write a 10 page research paper for my elective course (an artsie one, mind you). My TA is a graduate student, so she should know what the hell she's doing by now, right? Wrongo. I had handed in my paper 3 days late knowing that there would be a 3% penalty for every day it was late. I just got back the paper today and it has an interesting comment for the grade.
The TA with dubious math skills said:
71/1000 - 0.036 (late marks) = 70/1000 B-
Now in case your math skills are not up to speed, not a single number here makes any sense! What the hell is this? Is this some kind of joke? No matter how much I try to adjust any of the numbers it still doesn't come out right. How the hell does somebody like this become a grad, not to mention a graduate student? She was even telling us that she was going to go get her PhD after this! If there are any artsies that are reading this, sorry if I insulted your kind earlier, could you please try to interpret this piece of garbage to me?

Oh well, at least I got a good grade! Any other horror stories out there? I have puh-lenty more, but I'll save them for a rainy day for now.
 
The final answer was correct given the total penalty of 9% but I don't know where the 3.6% came from? Its alright, unfortunately the managers you will deal with with their MBA's are just as stupid. Trust me on that.
 
70 on a thousand is b- ????
i used to get C`s for 70 on a hundred

just do not tell him and cherish that idiot, because if he realized that 71-9 is 62, then you are barely passing.
 
Well apparently if he grades on a curve then there are lots of people doing some shitty work in that class. I had few profs that graded on a curve.
 
I'm not bad with maths, but when I tried to make sense out of this all I got was a headache :?
 
JJ86 said:
Its alright, unfortunately the managers you will deal with with their MBA's are just as stupid. Trust me on that.
That's why they're managers. You never promote the people that know what they're doing, otherwise, you'd have no-one left capable of doing any work!
 
I tought about it overnight, and came up with this explanation:

I had a teacher in college who would do stair grading.
1- Find a 50 to 60 steps stair
2- Put a grade on each of the steps in random order
3- Let the papers fly
4- The step where your paper landed is your grade.
5- In case your paper detached itself, you would get the average of all the steps where your papers landed.

Applying this to your case:
You landed on 71
he took you down 9 steps (3days at 3%)
you were now on 70 hence your grade

How's this?
 
The TA with dubious math skills said:
71/1000 - 0.036 (late marks) = 70/1000 B-

I got it!

Everyone knows that .09² = .0081. And isn't it obvious, .0081 * 4 = .0324, which is...Tadaa...90% of .036!

And don't forget, that euler^.036 is 1.036655846, so that 71-1.036655846 = 69.96334415, which rounds up to 70.

Get it?
 
JJ86 said:
Well apparently if he grades on a curve then there are lots of people doing some shitty work in that class
I wouldn't doubt it! That class required a lot more work than it should have for a level 1 3 unit artsie class. The prof had been telling us since the 2nd midterm that we should be listening hard in class for him to tell us what to study for the exam. He also said that the exam would be based on what he's blabbering about in class too.

He had sceduled the last class for nothing but exam reviews. At the last minute he discovered that he can't even follow his own syllabus, so he decides to cram in the last 2 chapters and the review in that class instead. He doesn't even finish the first chapter, which left us in the dark for the final chapter and the exam.

I looked at my notes to find out that he had only mentioned one thing that would be important for the final! I look at my syllabus and the website and there's zero information about anything regarding the exam. Usually the profs say how many multi-choice and essays there will be or how much each part is worth. This guy? It says "look below for exam info. [look look look] [become pissed of because there's nothing]" End result was I didn't know what the hell he wanted us to know for the final.

The class average for both midterms was 60-65%. Why must I take this? I leave you with part of a poem I made a while ago.
Ozrat said:
A bad excuse
is blaming impotence
for all the abuse
and all your incomptence
You call that homework?
I don't need my ass forked!
I like all the math theories that I've seen so far. So do you think that maybe he combined the approximation along with the stair grading? Lets have some more! I'll have to ask the prof how he graded this AFTER I get my final grade so he can't change it!
 
why are you guys complaining so much? :lol: i suggest you visit me in Croatia someday and see our local Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing. i study day and night, go to classes regularly and consider myself very lucky if i manage to do 50% of a test or exam correctly. if i manage to get all 2's (2 is Croatian equivalent of D) i'll be one of lucky 25% students who managed to pass - EVERYBODY ELSE FAILS! it's a massacre! when i walk down the halls of my college all i see are desperate students crying about how they flunked this and that, how the last test was incredibly difficult, how the assistant bullies them on lab excercises, and so on, i begin to wonder how severe is the psychological damage on these young people. you are pissed because the professor didn't give any info about the exam? here professors don't even know what the exam is ABOUT. exams are mostly devised by assistants, who all have one thing in common - they hate your guts! they disqualify you if you so much as lend your fellow student an eraser. even if the student manages to pass this HELL, there's still oral examination, and guess who's there? yep, the professor. but no reason to celebrate. the bastard will ask the hardests things from a 600 page book and when you don't know something he'll ask you closely related stuff over and over again. answers like "but sir, you didn't explain that in the classes" are a guaranteed failure, because professor won't take crap from no-one. bastards. mind you, those 75% who flunk every year aren't by any means stupid. because the faculty has a very difficult qualification exam which includes both "elementary" and higher mathematics, and only 30% applicants pass. these 30% are best of the best, finest young mathematicians in Croatia (yes, you have to know derivatives and integers in order to get into college which teaches you programming :? one of many paradoxes of croatian education system), but only one quarter of them are smart enough to actually finish it and get a goddamn degree. in almost hundred years only 15 000 people were able to actually *graduate* on Faculty of electrical engineering in croatia... and outside Croatia, nobody's even heard of it... :cry:
 
I'm glad I went to a college that didn't have any graduate degree programs so I didn't have to deal with stupid TA's. Most of my profs weren't too bad and I wasn't too serious about studying. I managed to squeak by and finally graduate even though I failed a few classes.
 
Hello Ratty my furry friend.

There's no need to tell me how hard engineering is! Hell, my school requires all 1st year engineering students to take 37 units their freshman year! I just took my calc II exam earlier today, and wow was that the scariest thing I've ever seen. I've worked so hard on that all term, especially lately and I could only honestly work through 1/2 the questions. I'm hoping that I barely pass if anything now.

Its sad to think that you can fail every single test during the term and fail the exam as well and still pass just because the average is so bad. In chemistry earlier this year the class average was never higher than 65% on either of the midterms. I got 45% and 55% respectively. Then comes the final exam, which I got 57% on. That's about 70% altogether for the final mark! I get my grades back, find out that my final grade was 53%, which somehow was a C-! This story is basically the same for a lot of people in physics as well.

How can it possibly be legal to make so many smart kids feel so stupid? I want some justice!
 
what can i say? life sucks. it's a common (mis)belief that more stupid they make us feel, the harder we'll work to prove them otherwise. (i don't know who "they" are, but i'm thinking "they" might be the last remnant of the spanish inquisition) this "brilliant" policy results in 75% people either giving up or getting addicted to Jet and Psycho. i get pissed off when i talk to my friends who study politology, economy or literature, because they spend less time studying than i did in high school, and still have better grades than me! duh! at least by the time we're done we'll be smart enough to pass the Vault City citizenship test. :P
 
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