Ashes of Apocalypse Wraps Up Design for v1.2

Wooz said:
Heh.

I wonder where you'd find enough weapon-grade steel in the wasteland to make a Claymore. And once you do, where you'd find a forge powerful enough to melt it into a sword, and a blacksmith able to do it.
Once you have the huge-ass sword, you'd have to find someone who knows how to wield the 40+kg thing properly.
Or somebody with enough of an inferiority complex to feel the need to wield a large (and some would say (pretty much innaccurately) phallic) weapon.

There are morons who buy (and sometimes try to use before being gunned down by SO19) swords nowadays, why not encounter the occaisional post-apoc nut with a useless weapon?

I'm fed up with encountering NPCs with "special" weapons - why not a "special" NPC with a weapon?
 
Because they wouldnt live long enough for you to meet them ... umm ... unless you roll 1000000 with your 1milion sided dice and so it happens that you will be the first person they meet. :lol:
 
Wooz said:
I wonder where you'd find enough weapon-grade steel in the wasteland to make a Claymore.

I'm guessing that'd not be too tough since we evolved a long way since, say medieval europe. space age polymers and metals are the things of the day. regardless, i must yield to the authors common sense. probably no efficacy for using any such weapon. the one thing i see not promulgated here is, what the hell are you going to do when the ammo runs out? reload? think 100 years beyond that. sharp metal will rule the day.
 
ok, f***. guess i should've read the whole thread before saying anything. nevermind i guess. =]
 
draeke said:
I'm guessing that'd not be too tough since we evolved a long way since, say medieval europe. space age polymers and metals are the things of the day.

All of this would make sense if it wasn't for the whole little thingy called "nuclear apocalypse" implied in the mod's setting.

You're also guessing wrong, forging a good *steel* weapon takes enormous amounts of skill, work and materials. Hell. You need a huge working force and material to make weapon-grade steel in the first place.

the one thing i see not promulgated here is, what the hell are you going to do when the ammo runs out? reload?

Melee weapons, not necessarily a shining XIV century, Norwegian steel Flamberge. Spears. Axes. Those are very cheap and very efficient weapons, which wouldn't need as much training to use relatively well.

Also. AFAIK, re-casting bullets and fabricating gunpowder would take less effort than building two mines, a steel mill, and a fully equipped blacksmith forge with the appropriate personnel.

sharp metal will rule the day.

Crossbows.
 
Frog said:
Because they wouldnt live long enough for you to meet them ... umm ... unless you roll 1000000 with your 1milion sided dice and so it happens that you will be the first person they meet. :lol:

This one beats Überdiablo everyday!
 
But seriously, sharpened flip flops.

Uh huh.

I thought the whole crossbow deal in Mad Max RW was fairly logical. It's relatively easy to build a rudimentary crossbow, which is a good ranged weapon.
 
I doubt whoever modeled that thing hasn't ever handled a real sword.

And I don't mean foam swords or the kind LARPers use. No, a metal one. Real steel. Not the aluminium things you see in most movies next to the rubber chainmail.

Just look at those quillons! If the blade broke off, that thing could serve as a D&D style dwarven warhammer.

Not to mention that he could never hold it like that.

Good lord. That's AWFUL.

It's like these guys don't even care about what the shit looks like or whether it makes any sense at all.

And to top it off he's wearing a renaissance-ish shirt.

This is supposed to be post-apocalyptic for crying out loud.

And the Fallout Shelter sign looks like it comes straight out of the factory. Heck, even the real one I have at home doesn't shine that brightly.
 
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