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You apparently missed the whole point of his post. I CAN'T afford a nice system. Whether it's 60 bucks or 60 cents, I've got other things I NEED to buy first. Would you like to know how much money I have, Xotor? 10 dollars. That's it. 10 dollars in petty cash is all I have to spend. You want me to buy what, now?
 
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>You apparently missed the whole point
>of his post. I
>CAN'T afford a nice system.
> Whether it's 60 bucks
>or 60 cents, I've got
>other things I NEED to
>buy first. Would you
>like to know how much
>money I have, Xotor?
>10 dollars. That's it.
> 10 dollars in petty
>cash is all I have
>to spend. You want
>me to buy what, now?

Then why don't you spend some of the time you spend on gaming and get a job?

-Xotor-

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>A Voodoo 2
>96Mb of RAM
>An 8.4Gb HD
>A 400MHz upgrade that didn't work
>and couldn't be returned
>A new motherboard
>A K62 500 processor
>A new mid-tower case
>A CD-ROM Drive
>A shitty Creative soundcard
>A Voodoo 3 that didn't work
>and couldn't be returned
>
>It may not be much, but
>I've spent hundreds on this
>piece of crap I've never
>had so much as a
>part-time job at McDonald's.

Well that explains something.

Maybe if you would spend less time gaming and get a job you could buy something slightly better.

I used to be in the same shitty condition you were, no money, no job, but if you actually go out and get a job, the situation changes. I don't even mean a shitty McDonalds or supermarket bagging job. You can acquire jobs at many places and earn a decent wage. I remember buying little upgrades for my system, I know what you're going through, and quite frankly, the stree of it all is JUST NOT WORTH IT. Get a job.

>As for my other statement, I
>think I confused you with
>someone on another message
>board, and I do apologize
>for that.

Okeedokee.

-Xotor-

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So then the secret to being a hardcore gamer is having a nice setup that you don't use often? Wow, I was really confused up to this point.
 
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>So then the secret to being
>a hardcore gamer is having
>a nice setup that you
>don't use often? Wow,
>I was really confused up
>to this point.

No, I'm saying you should get off your ass and earn some money for a hobby you spend most of your free time doing. Maybe THEN you can enjoy your hobby a little more instead of running off your shitty system.

An audiophile doesn't settle for listening with $3 desktop speakers, and a "hardcore" gamer doesn't settle for a shitty system if he's going to be spending most of his time on it.

So I wouldn't call you a "hardcore gamer" by any means.

-Xotor-

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Yeah but you're forgetting that the waiting is the hardest part. Every day you get one more yard. You take it on faith. You take it too the heart: the waaaaaaiting is haaaardest paaaart!
 
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Well, I guess that it just comes down to a difference of opinion. I would have thought that spending hundreds of hours playing a game and trying to get better at it, despite less than wonderful conditions, would make someone a hardcore gamer, but according to you being a hardcore gamer is something you buy. I could never agree with you, and you won't agree with me. Whatever.
 
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I would but I don't have enough money. Wait... that doesn't work in this situation, does it?
 
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>Well, I guess that it just
>comes down to a difference
>of opinion. I would
>have thought that spending hundreds
>of hours playing a game
>and trying to get better
>at it, despite less than
>wonderful conditions, would make someone
>a hardcore gamer, but according
>to you being a hardcore
>gamer is something you buy.

No, according to me you're not a "hardcore" gamer because you're not willing to invest in hardware to make your gaming experience, not to mention speed of gameplay, much more improved.

You're sitting there behind your POS system watching as your framerate drops to 16FPS in 640x480x15bit when there's five guys on screen and a few explosions trying to predict where the guy will be because your system is so lagged. Boom you're dead because you can't even tell what happened. Would a "hardcore" gamer accept such limitations? You're just cannon fodder if you can't even see what's going on.

I mean HELL, you can't even play all the MAPS even when that game which is so old, how can you even call yourself a "hardcore" gamer when you can't even experience all the game has to offer?

Think about it, would you consider an audiophile an audiophile if the speakers he listens to music with are cheap $3 desktop speakers leading from his crappy Sound Blaster Ensonique? No way. He might enjoy whatever form of music emanates from those POS speakers simply because he does not know better, but by no standard is he an "audiophile" because audiophiles don't ACCEPT shit like that.

In a manner of speaking you may enjoy your gaming existence, but you are *not* a hardcore gamer by any means. You may be an "avid player" (with what you've got) but "hardcore?" No I don't think so.

-Xotor-

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>I would but I don't have
>enough money. Wait... that
>doesn't work in this situation,
>does it?

*knocks on Doyle's head*

Hellooo? Anyone in there?

There's a simple solution to that problem: get off your lazy ass and get a job. What do you expect me to do, sympathize? Get real. If you spent HALF the time you spent gaming earning some money, you could improve your situation a lot. Does "hardcore" mean I'm-to-lazy-to-do-anything-else to you? If it does, then by all means, you are "hardcore."

"I love to eat, but if I spend time buying food I can't spend that time eating!"

-Xotor-

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>damn xotor, what made you so
>bitter

Bitter? I don't think that would be the word. If I were "bitter" I'd be holding a grudge that would persist through other threads and the like.

Accurate? Applying a concept? Making an analogy? Maybe those.

-Xotor-

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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Oct-11-01 AT 08:40PM (GMT)[p]"No, according to me you're not a "hardcore" gamer because you're not willing to invest in hardware to make your gaming experience, not to mention speed of gameplay, much more improved."

But I [em]am[/em] willing to invest money into my system. I've invested hundreds of dollars. I thought I'd established that already.

"You're sitting there behind your POS system watching as your framerate drops to 16FPS in 640x480x15bit when there's five guys on screen and a few explosions trying to predict where the guy will be because your system is so lagged. Boom you're dead because you can't even tell what happened. Would a "hardcore" gamer accept such limitations? You're just cannon fodder if you can't even see what's going on."

You know, if I where playing on my old 233 in software mode with a 1Mb video card, this might be an accurate description. However, because of those hundreds of dollars I've spent on my system, most maps I've played run perfectly on my system at 800x600x16bit.

"I mean HELL, you can't even play all the MAPS even when that game which is so old, how can you even call yourself a "hardcore" gamer when you can't even experience all the game has to offer?"

Now really, Xotor. It's IMPOSSIBLE to play every map with a game like this, even if they all ran well on my system. With any immensely popular multiplayer game like this there are going to be thousands of maps available. Most won't see any widespread use and some are more popular at lan parties than online. If you defined being "hardcore" as having played EVERY map, then NO ONE would be "hardcore". However, I have played every TYPE of map: Hostage, Bomb, VIP, escape, et al. Wouldn't that be as close to playing every map that anyone could get?

I guess our difference is in the fundamental point of the argument: it doesn't seem like "hardcore" means the same thing to you as it does to me. You can claim that I've spent no money on my system, that someone as lazy as I am couldn't be "hardcore", and that no "hardcore" gamer could enjoy the game on my setup. That means dick to me. Likewise, I can cite thousands of hours of playing, admin status, and regular posting on a CS forum, but none of that would mean anything to you.

It all comes down to this: I can't accept your definition of hardcore and you can't accept mine. This argument won't ever end unless you acknowledge that.
 
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HEY !

Why don't you both realize it takes both money and time to be a hardcore gamer ??
 
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>Seriously, if you cared that much
>for it I expected you
>would've bought some better hardware,
>I mean c'mon, Voodoo 3?
> That's like 1998 technology.
> Even my archaic ATI
>Rage 128 is better than
>that.

No. The ATI Rage 128 is not better than the Voodoo 3. The Voodoo 2 was better than the ATI rage 128. You really need to get your facts straight when you want to be critical.
 
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