Best looking mod I have seen in ages

Roflcore said:
I would. But Fallout is a RPG, while Half Life is and was a FPS. If they just change the graphic, why should I play it again? If seen it all, nothing new in it as it seems.
I think most people that will play the mod are fans that would want to play Half-Life over again regardless of the graphics so to them it's just a bonus. Plus, there are lots of new kids who cut their teeth playing Half-Life 2 that would love to play the original but find the graphics a bit too primitive for their tastes.

The thing about FPSs is that many people that play them like both the twitch gameplay and the shiny graphics along with the atmosphere. The gameplay, level design, and story of the original Half-Life are still are top-notch among FPSs today, so why not update the graphics and make it more accessible. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but there are plenty of people who have and haven't played Half-Life that will eagerly play this.
 
iridium_ionizer said:
Roflcore said:
I would. But Fallout is a RPG, while Half Life is and was a FPS. If they just change the graphic, why should I play it again? If seen it all, nothing new in it as it seems.
I think most people that will play the mod are fans that would want to play Half-Life over again regardless of the graphics so to them it's just a bonus. Plus, there are lots of new kids who cut their teeth playing Half-Life 2 that would love to play the original but find the graphics a bit too primitive for their tastes.

The thing about FPSs is that many people that play them like both the twitch gameplay and the shiny graphics along with the atmosphere. The gameplay, level design, and story of the original Half-Life are still are top-notch among FPSs today, so why not update the graphics and make it more accessible. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but there are plenty of people who have and haven't played Half-Life that will eagerly play this.

Well the level design is very solid up until Xem or whatever that place was called. I made it through the platforming bits, but that final boss with his attack that teleported you out of the room that he SPAMMED THE SHIT OUT OF was just too frustrating. And the damn thing followed you around and went through rocks and everything, and it could even get to you once you made it into the things head. I just Youtubed the ending, I'd had enough of that crap.

And for the record, I think the level design and gameplay are better, though the story is weaker, in Half Life 2.
 
Roflcore said:
I would. But Fallout is a RPG, while Half Life is and was a FPS. If they just change the graphic, why should I play it again? If seen it all, nothing new in it as it seems.

Anyways, graphics look nice, except for the weapons/firing animations
an FPS has gameplay, level design, atmosphere, etc...

HL1 / OpFor was great and HL2 never came close to that, regardless of how well it sold or how nice the physics were.
 
SuAside said:
Roflcore said:
I would. But Fallout is a RPG, while Half Life is and was a FPS. If they just change the graphic, why should I play it again? If seen it all, nothing new in it as it seems.

Anyways, graphics look nice, except for the weapons/firing animations
an FPS has gameplay, level design, atmosphere, etc...

HL1 / OpFor was great and HL2 never came close to that, regardless of how well it sold or how nice the physics were.

The physics and sales have nothing to do with why the game is good. The game had solid gameplay (even if it was nothing new), fantastic storyline, entertaining and enjoyable characters, and what is in my opinion phenomenal level design. I dunno, maybe your experience was different from mine.
 
The gameplay, story, and level design of HL1 are still top-notch even today? HL2 didn't even come close?

I'm sorry, but I really don't know how anyone could make such ridiculous statements with a straight face. My replay through HL1 and the expansions about a year ago was a grueling task indeed, a chore really. Story? What story? Are you kidding me? You push a cart thing into a beam thing, shit goes sideways, and you embark upon a quest to kill some hideous floating dude for reasons that aren't made entirely clear in the actual game. Yeah man that's deep stuff, real thought-provoking. :crazy:

HL was certainly fantastic at the time, but it's simply not a game that's aged well. At all.


And how is playing Fallout with new graphics any different than anything else with new graphics? "If seen it all, nothing new in it as it seems" indeed. :crazy:



All that said, this mod is at the very least an impressive technical undertaking.
 
Personally, i enjoyed HL1 and it's expansion packs much much more then HL2. HL1 had a darker atmosphere compared to HL2.
 
Personally, I liked HL much better than HL2. In Half Life, you are told the story through events that you see (Like seeing a scientist get gunned down by soldiers for the first time). The situation is revealed slowly, and you have to figure out what's going on based on tidbits given by scared shitless scientists and what you see. In Half Life 2, I found that all direction and story elements were given by other characters, not necessarily through your own experiences.
 
TheRatKing said:
Personally, I liked HL much better than HL2. In Half Life, you are told the story through events that you see (Like seeing a scientist get gunned down by soldiers for the first time). The situation is revealed slowly, and you have to figure out what's going on based on tidbits given by scared shitless scientists and what you see. In Half Life 2, I found that all direction and story elements were given by other characters, not necessarily through your own experiences.

The way they revealed the story to you was good in both HL and HL2, HL2 just had more people there to tell you things. And none of what people had to say ever made me feel like they were just there for exposition or that their dialogue was forced and unnatural in order to communicate the story. It all flowed together well.

And HL has aged like milk. I enjoyed my last playthrough, but without improved gameplay and even level design (which can in this day and age best be described as archaic) I wouldn't go through it again.

Especially not fucking Xen.
 
Recently tried to play through all Halflife games. Couldn't force myself to finish one. Loved OpFor. Hl2 series rocked. Portal owned all.

Halflife did introduce those really memorable scripted events, but as far as story. Not much there. Aliens invade through portal, military tries to cover it up, chaos ensues.
 
Half-life 2 is HUGE pile of crap with about everything made someway wrong, but this may have some sense.
 
Been waiting for this for some time, haven't heard much from Black Mesa in a long time until this update. Half Life 2 was decent, but like some of you, it was a major letdown for me. The Orwellian dystopia take was a novel idea but just not interesting to play in, munchkin written all over it. I do not like the weapons, especially the two smgs. I did enjoy some of Ravenholm and parts of the vehicle levels, but the game is full of gimmicky tech demo cuteness that just doesn't belong. The feeling of being vulnerable, of being caught in the middle of the different factions (military, cia, aliens) from HL1 and OF is not there, you get way too much help from a never ending stream of friendlies. It looks better, it has some better mods, that is all. HL2 single player doesn't hold a candle to the original.
 
I disagree with the comments about Halflife 2.
It introduced new novel concepts to FPS's and it had great graphics. The physics were a blast. The auto segments sucked, but I always find a part in a game that bugs me. This is no different.
Halflife just seemed to have more glaring errors. The stupid box puzzles, very little story, some cool scripted events. Op For was the best in the series to me hands down. Much more fun and easier to get into.
Halflife had horrible AI pathing. It was good for it's time, but by no means better than Halflife 2. Op For had a few segments were the soldiers would get stuck following me. I ended up having to leave one.
This shit doesn't occur in Halflife 2. Not to mention more great content has been added through Episodes. Some people might complain, but I generally enjoyed them. Orange Box rocks IMO.
I for one am looking forward to this.
 
TorontRayne said:
I disagree with the comments about Halflife 2.
It introduced new novel concepts to FPS's and it had great graphics. The physics were a blast. The auto segments sucked, but I always find a part in a game that bugs me. This is no different.
Halflife just seemed to have more glaring errors. The stupid box puzzles, very little story, some cool scripted events. Op For was the best in the series to me hands down. Much more fun and easier to get into.
Halflife had horrible AI pathing. It was good for it's time, but by no means better than Halflife 2. Op For had a few segments were the soldiers would get stuck following me. I ended up having to leave one.
This shit doesn't occur in Halflife 2. Not to mention more great content has been added through Episodes. Some people might complain, but I generally enjoyed them. Orange Box rocks IMO.
I for one am looking forward to this.

This is pretty much exactly what I think about the two games. I still haven't played Opposing Force even though I'v had it for a year though. Half-Life 2 just seemed much more alive, and coherent in storyline, with better storytelling. Half-Life 1 was fun, but I'm not going to be playing it again anytime soon.
 
Black Mesa is looking good, hope it gets completed and is released for free. I wonder if Valve is waiting for it to be finished and then buy it from them, I doubt it but they did do it with CS and DoD so it's possible.

TheRatKing said:
Personally, I liked HL much better than HL2. In Half Life, you are told the story through events that you see (Like seeing a scientist get gunned down by soldiers for the first time). The situation is revealed slowly, and you have to figure out what's going on based on tidbits given by scared shitless scientists and what you see. In Half Life 2, I found that all direction and story elements were given by other characters, not necessarily through your own experiences.
Agreed. That said, I got fed up/bored of the first game in the alien world and never completed while I have beaten the shorter HL2, though I definitely got bored in parts of it as well and probably beat it because it was shorter. HL isn't super story heavy after the long ass beginning of the game, you basically live through the story of the game rather than constantly talking to people and being told what's going on, where to go, why, and all that stuff which quite frankly, isn't something overly fun for a FPS. Also, while I think that they did an excellent job on voice acting and animations, I didn't think much of the characters and certainly didn't give a damn about them. I was also disappointed that there were less weapons in HL2 and that HL2 Deathmatch doesn't hold a candle to the original's online play, let alone Opposing Force online.

beverageleverage said:
I did enjoy some of Ravenholm and parts of the vehicle levels, but the game is full of gimmicky tech demo cuteness that just doesn't belong.
My favorite areas were probably part of Ravenholm, crawling around in the storm drain and infultrating the Combine base, and first getting the super gravity gun. That said, the gravity gun just seemed like an excuse to show off their physics and really may have been better in a game that revolved around it like portal, than thrown into HL2 (could have made for a quite fun game IMO).

TorontRayne said:
Op For was the best in the series to me hands down. Much more fun and easier to get into.
Agreed, I actually thought that the beginning of the original HL was boring as hell and would have been happier getting into action a lot faster.
 
Don't get me wrong. I liked Halflife a lot. It's one of my favorite games ,but not as high up there as Part 2.
 
TripJack said:
My replay through HL1 and the expansions about a year ago was a grueling task indeed, a chore really. Story? What story? Are you kidding me? You push a cart thing into a beam thing, shit goes sideways, and you embark upon a quest to kill some hideous floating dude for reasons that aren't made entirely clear in the actual game. Yeah man that's deep stuff, real thought-provoking. :crazy:
Nobody claimed the story is supposed to be deep and throught-provoking, and it isn't the game's fault if you couldn't understand it.

UncannyGarlic said:
Black Mesa is looking good, hope it gets completed and is released for free. I wonder if Valve is waiting for it to be finished and then buy it from them, I doubt it but they did do it with CS and DoD so it's possible.
They released commercial, stand-alone versions of CS and DoD, but anyone who had Half-Life could and still can freely play them.

I was quite underwhelmed by HL2, but the Episodes are a lot better. Fighting together with Alyx is more fun than being on your own.
 
failout said:
I was quite underwhelmed by HL2, but the Episodes are a lot better. Fighting together with Alyx is more fun than being on your own.
Agreed, I just got Orange Box a few days ago and just started playing through Episode 1. I'm almost done but got fed up with it crashing on me (the information that Steam provides about fixing the problem only reduces it's frequency and allows me to play it, though Episode 2, TF2, and Portal [which hasn't complained] only crash due to eating up all of my virtual memory so it's less often - basically I need a gaming rig bad). but it's definitely an improvement. I donno, maybe I just wasn't in a great mood for HL2 but I'm still not blown away by Episode 1, it didn't make me want to give it a standing ovation like Portal did [one of the few or only 9.5-10 games I can think of] and I still think that I enjoyed HL more than HL2 up until I got to the alien world (that bored me but I really need to replay and beat it).
 
I've been waiting for this mod for ages, it looks just great.

Jebus said:
I don't think it'll ever see the light of day. It's kinda like the KOTOR II Restoration project: no way a mod that has been in development for so incredibly long will still be released.
Like Mutants Rising? I think they show a good deal of progress. It'd be a shame if this wasn't finished.
 
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