Bethesda Forums limit gameplay discussion

The FT/RT debates at Bethsoft's forums always ending up in a debate over isometric/first person view and vice versa, while including the third person options along the line etc.

I don't knwo whether or not it was correct of Beth to limit the discussion of these topics to one thread as I pretty much enjoyed the CTB discussion thread. (and some of the other threads about this).

However, I didn't enjoy seeing the # 152 thread about the same topic we discussed the day before or even the hour before, and sometimes 5 minutes before. And there were a lot of polls, regarding FP/ISO or FT/TB topics or issues. It became a little too much, even for me, to keep up with all of this. And poll # 812 about wanting Fallout to be either TB or RT was a bit much, I think.

Like NMA's forums, Bethsoft's are privately owned. and as such Bethsoft as well as NMA can decide what rules guests need to follow in their house. And so they do. While NMA is a little more relaxed about certain things that
Bethsoft is, there are still rules here we all agree to follow when we sign. So it is at Bethsoft's forums, too.

I haven't said anything in the official thread yet, but maybe some day, I will...
 
I don't believe anyone is arguing that they don't have the right to institute this type of policy on their own forums. Rather on the separate issue of the wisdom in such an action.

Some of the fault of the recurring topics lies with the basic policies of the Bethesda forums. Specifically the ones that create a chatroom-like atmosphere, such as the lack of informative stickies or the 200-post locks, among other things. Turn-based against real-time is hardly the only recurring topic, and now we will see even more meaningless fluff topics.

I still believe it is undeniable that this will over-simplify the entire debate. Subtopics will only be briefly explored because they will be contained to the same thread as everything else, and issues will likely endlessly repeat themselves. Turn-based against real-time was a heated topic on the forums as well, obviously many members felt strongly about it. With this new policy, the importance of this issue is somewhat marginalized to a forum newcomer.
 
Tannhauser said:
I still believe it is undeniable that this will over-simplify the entire debate. Subtopics will only be briefly explored because they will be contained to the same thread as everything else, and issues will likely endlessly repeat themselves. Turn-based against real-time was a heated topic on the forums as well, obviously many members felt strongly about it. With this new policy, the importance of this issue is somewhat marginalized to a forum newcomer.
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I'm not sure that oversimpifying the debate is really a bad thing at this time.

I just don't see even the slightest purpose in arguing TB/RT, or any of its subtopics, on the Bethesda forum anymore.

Even if we could give empirical, objective and undeniable proof that turnbased combat was absolutely essential, it would not be effective in changing anything. Nobody that feels otherwise is going to "come over" to the other side of the argument and, even if they did, it wouldn't matter, since I think they have pretty much let us know that these issues are already decided upon and implemented.

Its effectively a non-issue at this point, so any argument about it is just posturing for a future point in time when information is released.

And that's pretty lame.
 
I have only read the official thread lighty as in skimmed it very briefly, but as far as I can tell, the discussion is being conducted
in a very civil and pleasant way.

As for the deeper discussions of RT/TB topics or issues, I still think they can be conducted in the official thread. My experience from the bethsoft's forums is that the endless repetition of thread number # 1017 about FT/ISO etc. was being a bit too much.

I also feel that both sides in the 'great' debate about RT vs. TB has had their say, and like politics, no one is going to change sides anymore. sad :( -- but true. People generally tend to make their mind up quickly in such a debate and then stick to their opinions.

I mean I have read 10 or so threads in support of RT combat and 10 or so threads in support of TB combat, having the exact same posters (or so) posting in the threads. Reading someone's statement about RT or TB combat for the Nth time, can get - shall we say --- a little tiresome, especially since only details seem to be altered in their opinions regarding RT or TB or FT/TP or FP perspective etc.

For some reason, the financial debate always seem to crawl in the window, too, when we're discussing whether or the combat should be RT or TB or whether the game should be top-down third person or have a first person perspective. It will get discussed, too, don't worry about that...

As for the 200 post lock, bioware has a policy of locking threads when they reach 10 pages (or so). And this means that there are sometimes way less than 200 posts in a thread. And there's nothing wrong with this since you just can create a new thread, like the 'meet the devs. thread, # 13' when the previous one get locked. (and while I wasn't around at the time, the farewell to grumpy thread' grew to over 500 or 800 posts, I think??).

The traffic at the bethsoft forums seems to be very hectic and fast, and I think that the reason for locking threads at 200 posts simply is that the site can't handle this much traffic or that it will take longer for the forums to load or something technichal like that.
 
Hey, I've changed the side to TB after reading on NMA about the Tabletop gaming thing :D .
 
Now I get what they're doing. The developers told the moderators to create only one topic for gameplay perspective because they want to limit the outcry when on June 18 people see that the game is first person perspective.
 
I think you may be right. After all if they meant to do it to make using forum less frustrating, they would do it long time ago.
 
Yellow said:
Now I get what they're doing. The developers told the moderators to create only one topic for gameplay perspective because they want to limit the outcry when on June 18 people see that the game is first person perspective.
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Sorrow said:
I think you may be right. After all if they meant to do it to make using forum less frustrating, they would do it long time ago.
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I'm not sure that really makes any sense, because if they wanted to stifle protest they could simply ban people, delete posts, and censor opinion directly..., er...
 
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