Bethesda wants Fallout 3 trailers off the web

I have come to the realization that I cannot convince many of you of Fallout 3's brilliance, nor can you make me believe otherwise, and I am perfectly okay with that. I respect our differences, and I don't want to spark any more petty quarrels. Let's shake on that, shall we?
 
kikomiko said:
I have come to the realization that I cannot convince many of you of Fallout 3's brilliance, nor can you make me believe otherwise, and I am perfectly okay with that. I respect our differences, and I don't want to spark any more petty quarrels. Let's shake on that, shall we?

So you admit you have already decided that Fallout 3 is an absolutely excellent game before it's come out, yet your telling us off for picking out some blaring flaws?

Bro, I just don't get you.
 
kikomiko said:
I have come to the realization that I cannot convince many of you of Fallout 3's brilliance, nor can you make me believe otherwise, and I am perfectly okay with that. I respect our differences, and I don't want to spark any more petty quarrels. Let's shake on that, shall we?

Well it's your 60 bucks to waste. I've played through the whole game and it is far from brilliant. You would do yourself a favor if you looked up the spoilers section on the forum and find out exactly how dumb the story actually is and why you'd be wasting 20 hours of your life.
 
kikomiko said:
I have come to the realization that I cannot convince many of you of Fallout 3's brilliance, nor can you make me believe otherwise, and I am perfectly okay with that. I respect our differences, and I don't want to spark any more petty quarrels. Let's shake on that, shall we?

Problem is, it's not just a bad game (if indeed "Fallout 3" is as bad as I suspect it is) - it's a bad game that's needlessly damaging the reputation of one of the great classics. It's a game that never should have been made in the first place. Not like this.
 
PCworld said:
What do you think? Is Bethesda doing the right thing by attempting to honor the ESRB's advertising guidelines? Or is pulling "any...Fallout 3 trailers" overreacting and/or verging on censorship?

Bethesda has the right to refuse the guidelines??
 
This, on top of everything else I've read about Beth on here the last month or so, brings me to the conclusion that they are just...weird. I swear half of them are running around swinging plastic swords at each other, talking through puppets, wearing glittery mage robes and working on computers made of wood. There's so many oddball things attached to them, most of the time I'm just like, "wha-?" :confused:

:dance: :revolution: :dance:

I'm OK with you kikomiko. It's only your ultimate undying happiness that scares me. :D ;)
 
Beth sure likes to create more work for itself. I wonder if that would still be a problem if in-game elements were '4 pixels high'.
 
it sounds a little crazy of me

but i've seen a lot of ingame videos recently
both official and user made

AND THEY SUCK and people say they suck

if only there was a way to pull all user generated and official stuff off :)


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seriously i think it has more to do with the lack of proper warning for violence and content, (maybe they should add stupidity) anyway ... and i think the depiction of Washington DC aint helpin either...
 
kikomiko said:
I have come to the realization that I cannot convince many of you of Fallout 3's brilliance, nor can you make me believe otherwise, and I am perfectly okay with that. I respect our differences, and I don't want to spark any more petty quarrels. Let's shake on that, shall we?

I just caught this, did you really expect to come on here and do that?

Pretty naive, guy.
 
I just caught this, did you really expect to come on here and do that?

Pretty naive, guy.

Having seen almost every post Kikomiko has made, I'm inclined to agree.

Now, on topic, I don't really get this. The official videos didn't have the proper rating on them so they need to be pulled down?
 
Kashrlyyk said:
PCworld said:
What do you think? Is Bethesda doing the right thing by attempting to honor the ESRB's advertising guidelines? Or is pulling "any...Fallout 3 trailers" overreacting and/or verging on censorship?

Bethesda has the right to refuse the guidelines??
Then they risk the game being "Not rated"

Ironicaly from what I have heard what happend is aparently a somewhat mildly pornographic trailer for an upcomeing game was released (with the current give us "your" "birthday" lockout, for all the good that did) Congress heard about it, and Russ Feingolds office (hes the chair of the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Property Rights) sent a nice notice to the ESRB and also to the MPAA that they did not consider the current rules and guidelines sufficent to prevent unitended veiwing of games and trailers over the internet by persons for whom said content was not intended to be viewed, and that they would apreceate seeing new guidlines in place before the next hearing before the subcomittee.
 
1. An advertisement should accurately reflect the nature and content of the product it represents and the rating issued (i.e., an advertisement should not mislead the consumer as to the product’s true character).
This is questionable and can go either way but they're probably safe on this.

2. An advertisement should not glamorize or exploit the ESRB rating of a product.
They did this in interviews but didn't see it in any trailers. Partial failure.

3. All advertisements should be created with a sense of responsibility toward the public.
Que? That's not vague to the point of uselessness though Oblivion did fail this.

4. No advertisement should contain any content that is likely to cause serious or widespread offense to the average consumer.
The violence? That said, it's a mature game so...

5. Companies must not specifically target advertising for entertainment software products rated “Teen,” “Mature” or “Adults Only” to consumers for whom the product is not rated as appropriate.
This is arguable and I'd say that their interviews do this but their regular trailers are fine.

Kashrlyyk said:
Bethesda has the right to refuse the guidelines??
I'm guessing it's like the MPAA in that you don't have to get your product rated but that most stores won't (or rather didn't used to) sell unrated products.

I'm completely at a loss for why this is happening and I'm doubtful that it's the ESRB's doing.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
1. An advertisement should accurately reflect the nature and content of the product it represents and the rating issued (i.e., an advertisement should not mislead the consumer as to the product’s true character).
This is questionable and can go either way but they're probably safe on this.
Does it include quality and other aspects product too?

UncannyGarlic said:
5. Companies must not specifically target advertising for entertainment software products rated “Teen,” “Mature” or “Adults Only” to consumers for whom the product is not rated as appropriate.
This is arguable and I'd say that their interviews do this but their regular trailers are fine.
Frankly, the whole "violence is fun" thing sounds like targeting early teens.
 
I just want to throw this out there, PC World is WRONG about the trailers. There ARE trailers that are R rated for movies. They are called red-banner trailers, and are pretty rare. They tend to play before R rated movies.
The only one I've seen is one for Beowulf movie. And it wasn't much differant from the normal trailer, just a little more gore.
 
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