Bethesda's Track Record (Split from FO3)

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Warhammer: 3025

First time out of the vault
Projects that Bethesda is currently associated with include:

Star Trek: Legacy
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Fallout 3
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Legend of Jack Sparrow
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion expanded content


Bethesda Softworks has a LOT on their plate. Besides, if the end product is the quality we've come to expect, isn't it truly worth the wait?
 
Warhammer: 3025 said:
Projects that Bethesda is currently associated with include:

Star Trek: Legacy
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Fallout 3
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Legend of Jack Sparrow
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion expanded content


Bethesda Softworks has a LOT on their plate. Besides, if the end product is the quality we've come to expect, isn't it truly worth the wait?
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Ehm, if you're referring to the quality of Bethesda's previous works, then I can safely expect that there is very little that Bethesda has done properly that is in any way relevant to Fallout.
Bethesda has achieved the following in their latest release:

- A weird level-scaling system that would in no way be fitting of Fallout, and basically ruined a lot of the motivation to go out and explore since, hey, the monsters are the same everywhere anyway.

- As with Morrowind, no atmosphere to speak of. Not when compared to the atmosphere in Fallout.

- Boring, uninventive quests (when compared to Fallout).

- Ridiculous spoken dialogue where voices changed in the middle of sentences.

- Silly minigames that take away a lot from the character's skills.

- No consequences of your choices (if any) to speak of.

- No dialogue trees or, in fact, any kind of decent, consequential dialogue that allows for roleplaying.

So, if Fallout 3 is going to be of the same quality that Oblivion was, thank ye very much, I'm never going to touch it.
 
Warhammer: 3025 said:
Star Trek: Legacy
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Fallout 3
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Legend of Jack Sparrow
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion expanded content
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Aren't they only producing Pirates and ST?
 
/me thinks this was a bad split

i think the dude was trying to say that there wasnt a lot of publicity / FO3 was going slowly, because beth was busy with so many other projects as well.

but then again, thats just me...
 
i know, mr 3D, but i'm just saying that this thread doesnt have any real value without what originally set it (and his reply) in motion.
 
Bethesda's track record?

You FO snobs think you're so great. Bethesda was good enough for the Drag Racing and Pro Bowling crowd. WTF are you bitching about? We're talking about drag racing, a sport where you drive in a straight line for a quarter mile. If Bethesda could deliver the goods with this precious franchise who is anyone to question their credentials to do FO3. Sheesh.

Yeah and they did Where's Waldo too so let's put this argument to bed right here once and for all.

They've already said thy're fans of FO3 and to trust them, is that not enough?
 
Wow, that's... that's a list of crappy games...

Hell, even from a purely commercial standpoint only TES is successful...

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With a broad panoply of games in role-playing, racing, simulation, and sports
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That's not a broad panoply...
 
hey! Skynet wasnt all that bad. pretty mediocre but very playable!

hmz, that was 1996...
 
You FO snobs think you're so great.
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You don't have to be much of a snob to know Bethesda made some shitty rpgs.

They've already said thy're fans of FO3 and to trust them, is that not enough?
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Get off their dicks. Have you played Oblivion lately?

Honestly, making yourself sound like a fanboy will not help you get your point across. Blindly supporting a company on the basis they have made a few good games (as well as a few shitty ones) doesn't present for good arguments.
 
hahaha, he got me too at first. I was ready to pounce on Cimmerian until I read
We're talking about drag racing, a sport where you drive in a straight line for a quarter mile.
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well done Cimmerian. I caught the humor :).

As for their track record... it shows, once a developer finds something that works, they ride it til the horse dies. No different from EA if you ask me as it seems they can only make sequels and sports games.
 
But what's not to love about Drag Racing games? There's the accelerating for 5 seconds, the not turning at all, the doing it over and over and over again.

To pull that off as a PC game you got to have some fucking staggering design acumen my friends.
 
But here's the thing that's more worrisome for me than anything else: Neither Morrowind or Oblivion have any real humor to speak of, and Fallout is BUILT on a really cynical, crazy, dark humor that made the series truly unique and wonderful.

Bethesda has proven to me they can make quality RPGs. They haven't proven they can make quality RPGs that depend on a healthy and rambunctious sense of humor.
 
DoomMunky said:
But here's the thing that's more worrisome for me than anything else: Neither Morrowind or Oblivion have any real humor to speak of, and Fallout is BUILT on a really cynical, crazy, dark humor that made the series truly unique and wonderful.

Bethesda has proven to me they can make quality RPGs. They haven't proven they can make quality RPGs that depend on a healthy and rambunctious sense of humor.
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Quality RPGs? What was so quality about Oblivion and Morrowind? Really? Besides the graphics.

Fallout wasn't built around humour, it was built around cynicism and irony, and a truly consequential roleplaying experience. You kill a man, you bear the consequences. You make a subtle choice in dialogue, there are consequences. Hell, the choices exist, which is more than you can say of Oblivion and Morrowind.
 
DoomMunky said:
But here's the thing that's more worrisome for me than anything else: Neither Morrowind or Oblivion have any real humor to speak of, and Fallout is BUILT on a really cynical, crazy, dark humor that made the series truly unique and wonderful.
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Well, Morrowind has Fargoth, while Oblivion has Radiant A.I. That's brilliant comedy right there. :D

Bethesda has proven to me they can make quality RPGs.
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Dude, they haven't made a quality RPG since 1996.
 
Quality RPGs? What was so quality about Oblivion and Morrowind? Really? Besides the graphics.

Fallout wasn't built around humour, it was built around cynicism and irony, and a truly consequential roleplaying experience. You kill a man, you bear the consequences. You make a subtle choice in dialogue, there are consequences. Hell, the choices exist, which is more than you can say of Oblivion and Morrowind.
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Dude, TES III and IV might not be the TYPE of RPG that you like, but they are pretty incredible games nonetheless.

I'm not gonna lay out all the reasons I think they're amazing because it's obvious you've already decided what you think about them, so I'll just stick with my main argument. They may be different from Fallout, but they are not crap. They're just not for you.

Now, I can see why this would make you worried about the future of the Fallout franchise, but really, do you think that the RPG division of Bethesda, which has proven itself SO adept at crafting immense and detailed worlds, is going to overlook the fundamentals of the Fallout experience? The consequence-based system, the dark humor, the cynicism?

I have much more faith in them than that, but faith is obviously not a big part of your relationship with Bethesda. So have fun being pessimistic! I'll have fun looking forward to some kickass gaming, and run the risk of being disappointed.
 
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