Bob Dylan in Lingerie

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Have you guys seen the ad with Bob Dylan doing Victoria's Secrets?

What the hell happened to this guy? He used to be a beatnik, challenging the man? Now he's selling bras and panties?

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/03/MNGRI608A81.DTL&type=printable

Dylan goes eclectic, appears in Victoria's Secret TV ad
Aidin Vaziri, Special to The Chronicle
Saturday, April 3, 2004
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Forget Janet Jackson: The most controversial pop star on television right now is Bob Dylan, who made his first appearance in a television commercial last week -- for Victoria's Secret.

The spot, which first aired during Tuesday's "American Idol" broadcast, was shot at the Palazzo in Venice and features the '60s counterculture icon singing a remix of his 1997 song "Love Sick," flocked by scantily clad models with feathery angels' wings affixed to their backs. The 62-year-old sports a John Waters-like pencil moustache and eyeliner in the commercial.

Dylan fans immediately flooded Internet chat rooms to express outrage in impassioned rants, while the New York Post flatly labeled him its "sellout of the week."

According to Victoria's Secret Creative Director Ed Razek, the unlikely idea of having the former Robert Allen Zimmerman hawking lingerie came straight from the company Chairman and CEO Les Wexner.

"We had done some spots last year with Dylan's music, and they got a great response," Razek said Friday. "So Les asked, 'Do you think Dylan would do a commercial?' It was a stunningly bold idea. We called his management, they found a two-day hole in his schedule, and off we went to Venice."

While Dylan was unavailable for comment, Claire Mercuri, vice president of media relations at Columbia Records, said the label had no trouble with Dylan's side project: "We think this is a great way to reach people with Bob's music. We're thrilled that he said 'yes' when we asked him to be in the commercial."

In addition to the commercial -- Dylan's first in his 40-year career --

Victoria's Secret stores are also offering a nine-track CD of his songs for $10.

"I can't speak for his motivation, but it certainly wouldn't be commercial," Razek says.

also from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/06/dylan.lingerie.ap/index.html

Latest Victoria's Secret model: Bob Dylan
Singer appearing in new series of ads
Tuesday, April 6, 2004 Posted: 9:54 AM EDT (1354 GMT)

Bob Dylan, as seen in the Victoria's Secret campaign.



NEW YORK (AP) -- New, from Victoria's Secret: the MiracleBob?

Bob Dylan appears in a new series of commercials for Victoria's Secret, his grizzled face intercut with shots of model Adriana Lima cavorting through Venice in a bra, panties and spike heels.

Don't worry. The 62-year-old Dylan keeps his clothes on.

Dylan's song "Love Sick," from his Grammy-winning 1997 album "Time Out of Mind," provides the musical backdrop for the spot, which airs in 15-, 30- and 60-second versions.

It promotes a new line of lingerie, the "Angels" collection -- which explains the wings on Lima's back as she prances across a palazzo near a Venetian canal.

"It's weird," said New York disc jockey Dennis Elsas, who's played Dylan music for three decades. "I would be hesitant to say it's awful or wonderful. It's just strange."

The commercials began airing a week ago, and will run for the next two weeks, said Ed Razek, chief creative officer for Victoria's Secret. The company experienced an immediate uptick in sales once the spots ran, he said.

Dylan was not a hard sell when approached about the campaign, Razek said. The company already had decided to use the song when its corporate boss, Les Wexner, suggested inviting Dylan himself.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Famer quickly agreed, although no one's quite sure why.

"I can't speculate to his reasons, I never talked to him about why he decided to come to the party, but he did," Razek said. "He's iconic, a living legend."

Dylan's spokesman did not return messages for comment about the campaign.

Little backlash
It's the first time in his 40-plus years as an international star that Dylan has appeared in an ad campaign, although his "The Times They Are a Changin' " was used in a Bank of Montreal commercial in 1996.

Back then, Dylan was ripped for selling out. His association with ladies in lingerie, as opposed to some corporate entity, failed to produce much antipathy -- particularly in an era where Led Zeppelin, Peter Gabriel and Sting recently licensed songs for commercials.

But the strange mingling of Dylan and decolletage prompted plenty of comment, from a New York sports writer's Sunday column to various Internet chat rooms.

"On first glance, this is wrong on so many levels, but after viewing it I really admire Bob Dylan," wrote one Dylan fan in a chat room. "I only hope that when I reach Dylan's age someone approaches me to ask if I would like to be paid to fly to Venice and do a commercial with several supermodels."

Once you reach that level of acceptance, as Elsas observed, the Dylan spots don't seem so bad.

"What would you rather have Bob Dylan selling, ladies' underwear or cat food?" Elsas asked.
 
I didn't know that Bob Dylan was 62. Where have I been!

I don't see what the big deal is that he did a Victoria's Secret commercial. I missed it, too... And I watch American Idol. Anyway...

Maybe if he did a centerfold spot like Joe Namath did - wearing pantyhose, then... Maybe we'd have something to talk about. Then again, in my eyes, Namath is macho enough to pull off wearing pantyhose and not thought of as a sissy.

Well, I look forward to seeing Dylan in the commercial and...
I might even buy his CD. I am an ANGEL account holder at VS so...
Maybe they'll save one for me... I know they'll sell like...wildfire. (Dylan only hopes. )

I'd also like to see The Boss in a commercial...(i'd like to see the boss in my house).
Now, Bruce's stuff I would buy...in a heartbeat - I still have a T-shirt with his picture splashed all over the front. Oh, my... The Boss' face and... THAT close to my chest and heart. Oh, mercy...
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Well, that settles it, you both are now officially Paladin Solo's ( http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5839 )

Why the hell are you focusing on Bob "I'm older than dirt even if my music rocks" Dylan instead of the angelic visage of Adriana Lima?

Answer: Paladin Solo's, both of you

Seriously, I don't care, for some reason it seems to fit, having Bob Dylan in a Vickies commercial. Somehthing about mixing music and fashion like this works for me.
 
diamondgypsy said:
I didn't know that Bob Dylan was 62. Where have I been!

Well, he was in his 20's and known for his music starting in the 1960's, so... :P

I don't see what the big deal is that he did a Victoria's Secret commercial.

Fear and terror?
 
I think it's a sad thing. The anti-commercial folk-singer first went electric and now he's gonna promote panties and thongs and what else. Sad, man. He's probably low on cash. Wasn't his last cd, like, total crap? Times sure are a-changing for this hypocrit.
 
I doubt hes low on cash, unless he's getting back into drugs. He just got done touring with the Dead on there reunion tour. His last album really wasn't "Crap", but he is a mere shadow of what he use to be. You can't even understand what hes singing anymore.

I would have never concidered him anti-commercial, or a hypoctite either. His music never really touched on those subjects, and people just assume that because he came from an era of anti-materialism.
 
Whatever. Tomorrow Dylan is signing a contract to make a commercial for Coca-Cola. How about that? :wink:
 
Like I said, I would have never concidered him to be anti-commercial. I don't care what he endorses. His art is his art, and thats what I know him by. :P
 
Murdoch- that hurts.

But yeah, Dylan was great and it rocks, but it's anti-establishment.

I don't mind Victoria Secrets selling panties and bras using an Angels advertisement. Too many people are selling religion anyway, but maybe that's the rise in religion in this country. Angels, Jesus = the next Santa Claus.

But Dylan being part of that... bums me out. THe guy was a beatnik! He was anti-establishment. It seems like a sell out.

Besides when you girl comes home wearing hot undies you don't want to be thinking of Bob Dylan.
 
Better think Bob Dylan than Michael Jackson...

Back to the issue, this paradoxal idea of mixing commercials and anti-establishment music, reminds me when Levi's tried to buy the rights to a Dead Kennedys song for a jeans commercial. The difference is they didn't sell it.

Apparently, Dylan either wasn't anti-establisment enough, or what seemed extremely shocking and offensive then, turned into something completely normal (with as much offensive power as Pat Boone), today.

I mean, in those days you couldn't sing about drugs, life in t3h gh3tt0, poverty, death, social problems explicitely. You couldn't just walk into a mall and have your little pussy pierced.
 
Hey, if I was an anti-establishment kinda guy, and VS wanted me in a commercial with a hot chick, I'd take it.
 
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