Can you finish the game without big guns or energy weapons?

Discussion in 'Fallout RPG Gameplay & Tech' started by Makatak, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. Makatak

    Makatak First time out of the vault

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    Nov 11, 2008
    I completed Fallout 1 a few days ago as a heavy gun user. And I wondered how much more hard it would be to get through those areas filled with super mutants with only small guns or even small-guns/throwing (grenades) combo. I have a character idea in mind that involves only small guns and probably grenades.
     
  2. Stag

    Stag Guest

    I've beaten Fallout 1 and 2 using only the .223 Blade Runner pistol (after I acquired it, obviously.) That gun is so pretty.
     
  3. Kanhef

    Kanhef Vault Dweller

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    Sep 2, 2007
    The .223 pistol is definitely the best small gun in Fallout 1. FO2 has a few more options - needler pistol with AP ammo, gauss pistol/rifle.
     
  4. Stag

    Stag Guest

    Yeah, but Rick Deckard didn't use any of that faggoty shit. He had a .223 and he fucking liked it.
     
  5. Rev. Layle

    Rev. Layle A Smooth-Skin

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    Jul 26, 2005
    .223 FTW

    i carry around that and a sniper rifle for long range attacks, use it for most of my small gun stuff for a whole game sometimes. if i don't use energy weapons for a session, i use those almost exclusively.

    i almost NEVER use big guns. i should play a character with a big gun skill someday. of the dozens of times i have played FO 1 & 2 - i never developed big guns as a skill.
     
  6. Kanhef

    Kanhef Vault Dweller

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    Sep 2, 2007
    There's a nasty bug in that if you fire a burst at someone with a corpse in between, all but one shot hit the corpse. Every time. If that could be fixed, big guns would be a lot more useful. As it is, the miniguns/machine guns are only good for softening up crowds from a distance. Flamers' short range and heavy fuel limit their usefulness. The only time it's really worth lugging one around is clearing out the wanamingo min. Rockets do lots of damage, even to power armor - more variable, but on average explosive rockets are about the same as gauss and pulse rifles, and AP rockets do significantly more damage. Too heavy to carry many around, though, unless you have some NPCs. Just remember not to give Marcus a launcher as well.
     
  7. Zetsuei

    Zetsuei First time out of the vault

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    Oct 10, 2008
    yeah, F2 major problem is the companion AI, it sucks..
     
  8. Starseeker

    Starseeker Vault Senior Citizen

    Jul 25, 2003
    Meh, I think the chaos is part of the fun/realism/charm. Real people do stupid things sometimes, and real fighting is chaotic. I doubt I can burst any smg/mini gun "past" any team mates and hit only the enemies.

    It's perfectly fine using only small arms, you can even be a melee or HtH only player. Heck, you can go the whole way pretty much without fighting.

    Sniper rifle or a .44 Magnum revolver is fine for anything until you hit people wearing advanced powered armors. After that, it's either aimed shots or have fun with something with more bursting power.
     
  9. Sicblades

    Sicblades Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Aug 28, 2008
    The Bozar is king...

    Yeah, I finished it once with just a magnum :) That was fun. I usually play melee though, I find the Super Sledge just so pleasing.
     
  10. Josan12

    Josan12 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 15, 2007
    Amen, brother. I find it amazing how many FO fans complain about this aspect of the game. I find the 'chaos' factor in FO very entertaining, realistic, immersive, and in fact it makes me laugh more than any other part of the game .... well said. :clap:
     
  11. bji

    bji First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2008
    I beat Fallout 1 using the super sledge more than 90% of the time. I only used the blade runner pistol when I didn't feel like chasing down someone who was running away.

    I am currently playing Fallout 2 using NO WEAPONS at all, just unarmed attacks. After figuring out some basic strategies I am having good success and expect that I will be able to complete Fallout 2 using solely unarmed combat.

    So to answer your question, yes you can complete Fallout without big guns or energy weapons. It's not even hard to do so.
     
  12. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Heh. Actually, there's quite a few choice places to raise your Unarmed skills in F2 for free, andx you can develop quite a force by using the special, critical-strike evoking attacks late in the game, even with a bare hand.

    I would recommend you use a Power Fist against the most challenging opponents like the robots, though.
     
  13. Kuj2

    Kuj2 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Sep 1, 2008
    Like Frank Horrigan. Unless you want to stay away and let the turrets take your fun.
     
  14. Puokki

    Puokki Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jun 4, 2008
    Actually I think the gauss rifle is the best gun in the whole game; luck 10, sniper perk and a gauss rifle, and you can clear the whole enclave without having to use a single stimpak (unless those bastards get lucky and hit an armor-piercing critical, even an advanced power armor mk 2 won't save you then from those gauss rifles and/or turrets' heavy miniguns.)
     
  15. Chancellor Kremlin

    Chancellor Kremlin Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 17, 2008
    Does the 'Mega Power Fist' count as melee or unarmed?
     
  16. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
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    Apr 24, 2005
    All no-weapon-in-the-hand-animations are unarmed.
     
  17. Dirk Magirk

    Dirk Magirk Interstellar Vacuum Road Warrior oTO Orderite

    Oct 30, 2008
    As you can see from my sig I'm a big supporter of the .223, tis indeed a choice gun.
     
  18. Frank Horrigan@BIS

    Frank Horrigan@BIS Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 3, 2003
    The Red Ryder LE BB Gun is also pretty neat if you should come across it. Actually, I prefer using the rifle over the .223 pistol in Fallout.
     
  19. fortyseven

    fortyseven First time out of the vault

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    Nov 19, 2008
    Shame there is so little ammo for this thing in game. But I agree its a fun rifle. I also like the H&K G11E, although it also suffers from the lack of ammo but apart from that its a lot of fun.
     
  20. Demonslayer

    Demonslayer Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Aug 8, 2005
    I've always finished fallout with gauss rifle (not big nor energy weapon).