CVG on PnP and cRPG

[Brother None]

Fallout is one of the cRPGs which was known for trying to bring the p&p world unto the video screen as closely as could be. Our good old friend Chris Avellone points out in an article about D&D, P&P and cRPG on computerandvideogames.com that this same philosphy sounded true in the design of Van Buren:<blockquote>"We've used pen-and-paper role-playing to test out new computer game systems, as well as characters and area designs," says Chris. "Here at Obsidian, we role-played through the opening stages of Neverwinter Nights 2 to test the flow of the game.
(...)
In Interplay's Fallout 3, for example (A project that was sadly never completed - Ed), about a quarter of the areas and quests ended up being sparked by character actions and 'wouldn't it be neat if...' moments that arose during pen and paper playtests."</blockquote>Link: How Dungeon & Dragons shaped the modern videogame on CVG

 

[Goweigus]

We can only hope that when Bethesda people do come up with a neat idea it is in the format of "wouldn't it be cool if" and not in the format of "Well it worked in Oblivion...."

thought some of those "cool" ideas might not be too good for us

Good read, like the topic, heres a fun DnD song btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxnEKTjhj0

 

[DirtyDreamDesigner]

WHY CHRIS?! WHY?! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND MAKE THAT PIECE OF SHIT NWN?!

 

[Goweigus]

Though I do realize now, there weren't that many points about how it affected.

But it was still fun!

and my bad but what are you yelling about?

 

[fatfattymcfat]

WHY CHRIS?! WHY?! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND MAKE THAT PIECE OF SHIT NWN?!

Agreed. It doesn't quite *count* for me as a roleplaying game when you kill tons of shit that looks the same and aquire tons of items that look the same in tons of fucking dungeons that look the same.

Not really a great "role" to be playing.

 

[DirtyDreamDesigner]

and my bad but what are you yelling about?

It just bugs me that he designed Neverwinter Nights 2, which is a piece of shit, and earlier he showed some promise with Planescape: Torment (though, as some would say, it might just have been a fluke).

 

[Morbus]

WHY CHRIS?! WHY?! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND MAKE THAT PIECE OF SHIT NWN?!

I too mourn for that one

Never again will i buy ANY obsidian's game. First freaking kotor 2, and now NWN2, BOTH of them hurried up and unfinished. Fuck this man... I'm still clutching at BioWare...