D-Day Anniversary. Yeah I know ... its old (ts really!)

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http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5350E858B73D4A45&search_query=A+Necessary+War

for anyone that is such a WW2 nut like me. Well they will not need a reminder, for anyone else who likes good documentarys just watch it.

I guess there is no need to explain what the D-Day was.

Even when I think though July 4 - 1943 was just as much as important as the D-Day, if not even more considering the many troops and material used in that time.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=713627567B9AE662&search_query=Battle+of+Kursk

If you are "tired" of WW2 discussions, well dont look in to this topic mkay :P ?
 
Oh, flock, you just reminded me. It's my birthday today.

On topic: Why is there no war movies today on television. I'd love to watch The longest day again.
 
I'm grateful for what all of those brave Canadians, Americans and Brits did for us that day in France.

Lest we forget.
 
The day where Allied's ingenuity and bravery put to the test against the "impregnable" Atlantic Wall.

:clap: What a day.....
 
not much ingenuity (except for the faint)... bravery and courage, bucketloads however.

people often remember D-Day, but homage should also be made to the people who basically suicided to give the germans the idea that the landing would be much further north. many fighter wings were sent to their deaths, for the sole purpose of keeping the Luftwaffe busy and making the Heer believe that the landing would come up north.
 
And dont forget the two artificial harbours made to help move additional troops and supplies.
Without them the invasion would have been rather hard or even impossible.
 
Not to mention the PLUTO pipelines used to feed the allied advance post D-Day. A day to remember absolutely.
 
I remember talking to a survivor of D-Day.

Got some crazy stories out of him.

He also went from Normandy to Berlin. To say the least, he's the most badass person I've ever met in my life, hands down.

He had a few medals (6 I believe) and a thank you certificate and note from the French for being in the attack on D-Day.

Crazy shit man. Crazy shit. :)
 
I've had a couple of family members over during that horrible time. I only know of a few stories but it's all kinda hazy because they passed away when I was in my early teens.
I do wish to give my grattitude and a salute to those men. They have given my family great pride as well as the many people who had given their lives.

A great show of bravery from all the people that served during that time.
 
I_eat_supermutants said:
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A great show of bravery from all the people that served during that time.
Sadly for many the war at the front just contiuned at home as well :o

442nd Infantry Regiment (United States)

The stellar record of the Japanese Americans serving in the 442nd and in the Military Intelligence Service (US Pacific Theater forces in WWII) helped change the minds of anti-Japanese American critics in the US and resulted in easing of restrictions and the eventual release of the 120,000 strong community well before the end of WWII.

However, the unit’s exemplary service and many decorations did not change the attitudes of the general U.S. population to people of Japanese descent after World War II. Veterans were welcomed home by signs that read “No Japs Allowed” and “No Japs Wanted,” and many veterans were denied service in shops and restaurants, and had their homes and property vandalized.




Museum of Black WW II History

Tuskegee Airmen
Far from failing as originally expected, a combination of pre-war experience and the personal drive of those accepted for training had resulted in some of the best pilots in the U.S. Army Air Corps. Nevertheless, the Tuskegee Airmen continued to have to fight racism. Their combat record did much to quiet those directly involved with the group (notably bomber crews who often requested them for escort), but other units continued to harass the Airmen.


There have also been less Medal of Honor awards given to black people compared with white soldiers who did service in WW2 even though when the situation they have been involved in and actions they have done would have legitimate the award. (this is more on the idinvidual level)

Hispanic Americans in World War II

There is also the role of the hispanics/mexican-americans which did service in WW2 and get many times not mentioned like the role of the American-Germans or Italians which did service in the US military. Or the controversial around sending American-Japanese in concentration camps but dealing differently with American-Germans or Italians cause their number has been a lot higher (It still happend but nut on the same scale and some of the soldiers that did service in the US army had German and Jewish roots). One can get many informations today if he wants to search for it, but its still something that many times gets somewhat easily as well "forgotten" or "unnoticed".
 
Unlike the French, let's not forget the Algerians fighting in the French armies in WWII. During the war, they made up 2/3rds of the French fighting force, IIRC.

France even went so far as to make sure that only "white-only" regiments were seen in the retaking of Paris at the end of WWII.
 
Unkillable Cat said:
Unlike the French, let's not forget the Algerians fighting in the French armies in WWII. During the war, they made up 2/3rds of the French fighting force, IIRC.

France even went so far as to make sure that only "white-only" regiments were seen in the retaking of Paris at the end of WWII.
is true for all countries in nearly all wars, Cat. don't kid yourself. this isn't anything special.

sad but true...
 
At least the french got a free country. And some honours in the parades that followed.

We got buttfucked.
 
Unkillable Cat said:
Unlike the French, let's not forget the Algerians fighting in the French armies in WWII. During the war, they made up 2/3rds of the French fighting force, IIRC.

France even went so far as to make sure that only "white-only" regiments were seen in the retaking of Paris at the end of WWII.

We've got a similar problem here in Blighty. Currently got a lot of anti Polish nationlists going around parading pictures of D Day on billboards and leaflets to show their "Britishness".
The irony being that we would of lost the Battle of Britain without the Polish pilots who were regarded as the best pilots in the war, furthering the irony the British National Party accidently put a picture of a Polish spitfire on one of their leaflets.
Not to mention the surviving Polish forces took part in the British Africa campaign.

Also the AVRE's linked in a previous post are awesome, shame only the British and Canadians used them.
 
Indian troops rearely get a mention in UK either, though they formed a large proportion of the 8th Army in N. Africa. Other Commonwealth troops (Aus, NZ for example) get a lot more coverage.

The Americans were offered specialized armour for the invasion but turned it all down except for some DD swimming tanks. These were launched 3 miles offshore IIRC in water that was way too rough and promptly sank, killing almost all the crews. Poor sods. (I think one landing craft commander saw what was happening and took his tanks in to land at Omaha, but they were too few to make much difference).

I had family (now dead) that fought in Normandy through Holland. An uncle was an anti-tank gunner - he could never talk about his experiences. One grandfather was a DR with the 49th Infantry (the Polar Bear Butchers) - he said the worst thing for him was having to ride his motorbike over bodies in the roads. I have a 1944 divisional Christmas card he was issued that shows how bitter the fighting got:

ButcherChristmasCard.jpg


The text printed with the card was even more horrific. This really was meant to be sent back to the families at home...
 
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