Does Bethesda know they messed up?

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I need honest opinions, does Bethesda know they messed up Fallout 4 and will attempt to do better when Fallout 5 comes around?

And in case you don't know Deacon's voice actor has confirmed FO:5 is in pre-production.

Could FO:5 be an actual RPG and Bethesda realized they messed up Fallout 4?
 
It depends which way you look at it.
If you look at what they were setting out to do, then no.
They set out to make a game targeted to the Call of Duty crowd (don't ask me why, they don't usually have fond memories of playing Single Player games and will just complain later games don't have multi-player). The game sold well and people are still playing it.
It's a casual game, which is pretty much what they set out to do.

If they were trying to emulate what made New Vegas popular (which a part of me believes may be the case) then yes. The masses still believe New Vegas to be the better game. The Bethesda forums say Obsidian made the better game. People want another New Vegas. The industry itself wants another New Vegas.
 
No, they don't. I doubt that the devs in charge of the whole thing (i.e. Todd Howard) even likes RPGs. My opinion is that they enjoy casual shooters, so they develop casual shooters, and publishers like casual shooters because they make easy money, and that's a win-win for the two involved. Personally, if they wanted to do that with their own IP no one would care. Thing is, they did it with Fallout, so people do care.
 
I think that Bethesda can't help but notice things like "Fallout 4 is not the Fallout fans fell in love with", or "Fallout 4's factions all suck", or "Let's rank the Fallout games, Best to Worst" (an article in which Fallout 4 finishes last) on major video game blogs and realize that there are things they could or should have done better in Fallout 4.

Even if they can point to sales and conclude that someone (a lot of someones, even) really liked Fallout 4 they have to realize that there's some part of their potential audience that they could do a better job appealing to and sell even more copies.

They're not going to put on hairshirts and flog themselves with whips in order to atone for their sinfulness in crafting Fallout 4 the way they did, but there are bound to be a lot of entries on the "things we should do better" and "mistakes we can learn from" lists when it comes to making their next game.

It's simply not reasonable to look at the reaction to a particular work and conclude that it's all good or it's all bad. The sensible thing to do is to look at what you've learned, what you should do more of, what you should do less of, what things appealed to which parts of your audience, and which things repulsed which parts of your audience. It definitely seems that they have more to learn from the reaction to Fo4 than they did from the reactions to previous games, as the criticism of Fallout 4 was quite a bit louder than that of Oblivion, Fo3, and Skyrim.
 
I believe I read an interview where Todd Howard talked about all the positive reviews FO4 was getting.

My guess is that he probably only reads the Critic Reviews, meaning that he has a biased view of how successful it actually is from a group of casuals who think they are journalists.
 
JO'Geran said:
I believe I read an interview where Todd Howard talked about all the positive reviews FO4 was getting.

My guess is that he probably only reads the Critic Reviews, meaning that he has a biased view of how successful it actually is from a group of casuals who think they are journalists.
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People who make games read a lot of stuff, good and bad. But if Todd Howard is doing an interview, it is to market his game or his company, so of course he's not going to mention anything that portrays either in a negative light. The "we listened to criticism and responded to it" part will come when he's marketing the next game.
 
is fallout 4 todd russian campaign.jpg

Is Fallout 4 Todd Russian campaign? Will he be exiled to Elbe, and make his Hundred Days come back at the head of his Bethestard Guard, and fight his last Waterloo?
 
Is that painting seriously Fallout 4? Please tell me it's a mod. He can't possibly be that fucking arrogant.
 
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