Does the World Need Another "-punk?"

Tannhauser

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First there was Cyberpunk, and most of us are familiar with Steampunk. Now, there is a fledgling "-punk" out there, Clockpunk. There isn't much to explain if you familiar with Steampunk, except Clockpunk deals with the Renaissance instead. If you need a more complete explanation, you can find one here (it is the "Da Vinci Automata" blog, even if the title is unreadable).

Is this sub-genre viable? The only two examples I've seen pointed out have been Terry Pratchett's Discworld, especially The Last Hero, and Pasquale's Angel by Paul McAuley. Can anyone think of any more? Not to mention, is this a needlessly invented micro-definition that will quickly be forgotten? Steampunk started out much the same way, but quickly gained popularity. However, there seemed to be a larger collection of 'Steampunk' material before the term was invented. 'Clockpunk' doesn't seem to be a very catchy name, and doesn't make as much sense as a name as Steampunk or Cyberpunk.
 
Is Bioshock a water-punk game? It's got an eerie kind of wet grungy look and feel to it. What the hell does the 'punk' in these names mean anyways?
 
Well, I was hoping for a basic level of familiarity with the various genres. It all goes back to the original Cyberpunk, which is the most 'punkish' of them all. I could explain it, but Wikipeida does a decent job of it. The other -punk sub-genres often lose the punkish atmosphere, but the naming convention remains a popular one. In visual works for example, Steampunk is often more of an aesthetic than anything else.
 
I think that the clock thing shouldn't be called Clockpunk. It doesn't seem to have punk in it.

I think that a "magic-punk" game would be interesting. I'm a bit bored with tame fantasy world with simple magic...
 
It seems like a rather futile sub-genre of Steampunk. It isn't exactly distinct, there's a lot of overlap between the two.
 
Tannhauser said:
The only two examples I've seen pointed out have been Terry Pratchett's Discworld, especially The Last Hero, and Pasquale's Angel by Paul McAuley. Can anyone think of any more?

I'd guess you could call something like Beowulf (Lambert) could be considered "clockpunk",since it's more or less midevial,but with sofisticated technology weaponwise...or Vidoqc (Depardieau) for that matter.

Is it a needed subgenre?
Well...no,I mean,I can see a reason for the splattergenre,it's meant to describe a very bloody humourus horrorflick,just like the zombiegenre means there are living dead in it and so on....but "clockpunk" is not something that has any relevance to it due to amount of produced material or anything.(so I guess someone just feels like he/she wants to make a mark in history by phrasing a name of a genre...)
 
Why not call it "Renaissance-punk"?

...or if that still sounds just as bad as "clock-punk" they could use the name of a renaissance era inventor or artist as the period was known for.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
The Vault Dweller said:
Why not call it "Renaissance-punk"?

...or if that still sounds just as bad as "clock-punk" they could use the name of a renaissance era inventor or artist as the period was known for.

So you mean cubismpunk if it's set during that period of time? ;)
 
Botticellipunk! Veronesepunk! No!

LEONARDOPUNK!

Also, 50's themed things should be called HOPPERPUNK.

Bawhaw.
 
Rainstorm said:
I'd guess you could call something like Beowulf (Lambert) could be considered "clockpunk",since it's more or less midevial,but with sofisticated technology weaponwise...or Vidoqc (Depardieau) for that matter.

Actually, those are examples of steampunk.

I have no problem with clockpunk. Also, I believe that the term is not that new. It sounds quite interesting too, I would love to read a good example.

Leonardopunk isn't such a bad idea, actually, IMO.
 
DDD said:
Leonardopunk isn't such a bad idea, actually, IMO.

I can't help thinking of TMNT's Leonardo, wearing over $500 of clothing, begging for change on a busy street whilst completely drunk.
 
I have a pic of that somewhere, methinks it used to be on one of my Dead Kennedys' CD.
 
Bisonman80 said:
Is Bioshock a water-punk game?

If so, the name would most likely be "Aquapunk".

Also, if Terry Pratchett's "The Last Hero", is named as an example of Clockpunk, then it's likely other Discworld stories could fall into that category.
 
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